410 Steel load perfomance

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  1. Billy Bob

    Billy Bob Elite Refuge Member

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    That is extremely strange. Possibly the hull length causes them to hang up like some 3.5" hulls do causing failure to eject or maybe just not enough energy to reliably eject from semi autos.
     
  2. Mrs.10GAGENUT

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    RIO makes no mention of it on their website, I wouldn't beleive what an ammo retailer says before the manufacturer.
     
  3. Billy Bob

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    True but it's very possible. A friend bought 2 cases of RIO 12 gauge for he and his son, both of their guns were single shots with it so I wouldn't totally ignore that warning.
     
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    Looking through some of my old .410 gauge reloading data before, maybe get another .410 just to try these hot rod lead loads using IMR 4198 rifle powder. 3" .410 1/2 ounce at 1500 fps that's moving to say the least
     
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    I have shot well over a 100 flats of Rio's 1 oz 1280 fps and 1250 1 1/8oz with no problems in 12 ga . I can understand shooting these in a CHEAP auto
    there could be a problem but my XLR 5 and Teckny seem to do just fine . The 1 oz come in the Blue hull with the short plastic base wad , these load
    nicely because it's a straightwalled hull for waterfowl loads . Those Rio 3" 410ga 9/16 oz loads must not produce enough psi to operate a auto , which
    doesn't say much for 410's in general ?
     
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    Wow those would be a snappy load. I shot some of the 3" 11/16oz ammo and thinks that's about the top end of my recoil limit for now. I'm hoping the 9/16 bismuth @ 1300 will be about equal in recoil to the 11/16 lead @ 1135fps.
     
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    Boss has been talking about starting to load for subgauges in bismuth soon. I know they have mentioned 16, 28 and .410
     
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    Those with the IMR 4198 are a bit on the fast side to say the least. Guess I could reduce the powder down and make heavier payloads.
     
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    I already tried 16 gauge Bismuth loads, not to shabby on performance or patterning, still not going to put much effort in to Bismuth as 1 oz of HW15 6's will kill further than most 16 gauge factory Bismuth offerings, if you so desire. Cost difference for me with salvaged Federal HW shot is around 40 -50 cents a shell.
     
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  10. Billy Bob

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    The real question is, do you think you could get a workable pattern with lead at that velocity?
     

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