A paper with citations showing water left to flow to Ocean is not "wasted"

[Kevin Burroughs]

Here is a real easy fix for your salt problem. Raise Shasta Res the extra 100 feet it was designed for and double the acre feet to 8 million acre feet. All the infrastructure was built to have it done, bridges and such and you would would have plenty of water for salt intrusion. Ever wonder why the bridges are so high off the water ?.

New Melones was finished in 1980, nothing big has been built since then.

You could just tell the 20 million people that moved here that they have to move instead.

The salt intrusion is only a problem because they don't want to pump salty water south.

 

[CalBaer]

Spent some time on and along the bank of the American River lately. Not arguing that flow all the way to the ocean is beneficial. I doubt any one can argue that point. But it would be great if we could capture more of this record snow melt that is CA’s boom and bust water cycle. 30 million people living in a desert and siphoning off the water from the north. Wildlife will suffer. And so will my water bill. I can’t recall ever seeing 6 gates at Nimbus opened in June.

 

[California Flyway]

Burroughs posted,
"The salt intrusion is only a problem because they don't want to pump salty water south."

What about the importance of the large, key freshwater, estuary habitats that would be polluted by salt water intrusion? What would replace those?
If you have citation links to explain or support, please post em up.

 

[Tommyo]

Partially wasted. Point taken. Retiring a straw man begins the debate, it surely does not end the debate.

 

[Kevin Burroughs]

Burroughs posted,
"The salt intrusion is only a problem because they don't want to pump salty water south."

What about the importance of the large, key freshwater, estuary habitats that would be polluted by salt water intrusion? What would replace those?
If you have citation links to explain or support, please post em up.

The same thing that happened for tens of thousand of years during dry years in California, the salt water came farther east. With Shasta Reservoir being raised there would be plenty of water now to help with salt water issues. Are you going to leave the state to lessen the need to store more water for residents ?.

I'm curious, where are these freshwater estuaries' you speak of ?

 

[California Flyway]

I do not envision we will recover the famous San Francisco Bay shrimp fishery memorialized on plaques as you walk the San Francisco waterfront. We can restore the SF bay wetlands/estuary interface habitats - just add water.

 

[Kevin Burroughs]

I have fished the Delta for over 40 years. Everything west of the Antioch bridge ain't fresh water. Again where are these freshwater estuaries you speak of.

 

[California Flyway]

So we lost it at least 40 years ago, thanks I will list you in future "on the water" citations.
Do you remember when we lost the SF Bay Shrimp fishery?
If not I will research and post

With all the SF Bay water quality/fish kills in the past year, it may have been very timely for a fresh water flush as is natures way.

Salt intrusions strike deep into your estuaries they can creep.

 

[Kevin Burroughs]

So we lost it at least 40 years ago, thanks I will list you as a citation.
Do you remember when we lost the SF Bay Shrimp fishery?
If not I will research and post

With all the SF Bay water quality/fish kills in the past year, it may have been very timely for a fresh water flush as is natures way.

Still waiting for the freshwater estuaries you were speaking about. Where are they at ?.

There are none. The only reason they don't want brackish water east of the Antioch Bridge so they won't pump it south. Again as always, you don't have a clue to what you are talking about.

Fish are just fine in the Delta. I would venture to say there are more fish per acre of water in the Delta than anywhere in the state. Salmon sure are not doing very well but everything else is thriving.

 

[California Flyway]

Ok, we have established, in your view it is not about freshwater estuary health or Salmon, it is duly noted and will be cited as a sort of industrial bio mass.
"Bass for Industry"