Boss Unmuzzled Bismuth load dissection and patterning performance for waterfowl.

[Ravenanme]

I certainly wouldn't try to undercut Boss's Great offering of factory Buffered Bismuth loads but Why not just load Bismuth with Buffer
yourself ? It's so dang easy , with so many standard Lead components that work for Bismuth too ! I can see where a mg 42 wad would
contain a payload a little better with it's stiffer peddles (maybe) and as far as Buffer , there has been development of some fine (easy to use)
materials that protect these softer pellets too ?
I'm not against Boss or any shotshell manufacture , I'm just at aah , at the price per/shell some are willing to pay ?

Joe you are a hero in showing how well Bismuth performs ! just saying

 

[Larry Welch]

Thanks J Hunter for you time and efforts and for sharing your findings. A pleasure as always.

 

[3B209]

pretty cool testing

 

[garza7585]

I certainly wouldn't try to undercut Boss's Great offering of factory Buffered Bismuth loads but Why not just load Bismuth with Buffer
yourself ? It's so dang easy , with so many standard Lead components that work for Bismuth too ! I can see where a mg 42 wad would
contain a payload a little better with it's stiffer peddles (maybe) and as far as Buffer , there has been development of some fine (easy to use)
materials that protect these softer pellets too ?
I'm not against Boss or any shotshell manufacture , I'm just at aah , at the price per/shell some are willing to pay ?

Joe you are a hero in showing how well Bismuth performs ! just saying

I do load my own bismuth with buffer, but I like Boss as a company and when I shoot factory loads I buy from them.

And there are people out there that don't want to to spend the time to load their own, don't know how, or don't want to go down that rabbit hole - and for them I think Boss is a great option to shoot "other than steel" non-tox.

I was able to get some Mec's for cheap when I started loading and found some good data to use and i've been happy making my own. There are some savings and I really enjoy winding down in the evening by loading a box or two so the whole time thing isn't a big deal. I slowly, through the spring and summer, will load a case for the upcoming waterfowl season.

 

[Dr Swane]

I certainly wouldn't try to undercut Boss's Great offering of factory Buffered Bismuth loads but Why not just load Bismuth with Buffer
yourself ? It's so dang easy , with so many standard Lead components that work for Bismuth too ! I can see where a mg 42 wad would
contain a payload a little better with it's stiffer peddles (maybe) and as far as Buffer , there has been development of some fine (easy to use)
materials that protect these softer pellets too ?
I'm not against Boss or any shotshell manufacture , I'm just at aah , at the price per/shell some are willing to pay ?

Joe you are a hero in showing how well Bismuth performs ! just saying

Apples to apples cost, Boss will be about $5-15 more in total cost, vs doing it yourself, and not everyone has walnut buffer on hand..

 

[Ravenanme]

Yep that's a fact ! Bismuth is becoming a true alternative to Steel Shot , but , it has been around for decades ! The evolution of covering it
with Copper or another material seems to be something new , maybe . I guess , it's all in what you think , you need to kill a bird ? Most
ballistic tables provide options that work , it's the BS marketing , that some are willing to pay , out the nose for , that's ridiculous !

 

[cd2]

I ordered a box of the Warchiefs to play with. About 10% better patterns than the originals for me at 40 yards with the factory full

I definitely buy into the fact that the buffered load will pattern better than the non-buffered load, what I don't buy is their claim that they have greater penetration with the same shot at the same speed with this load

 

[JP]

Thanks J Hunter for you time and efforts and for sharing your findings. A pleasure as always.

I heard that he's only allowed of the nursing home a couple days each month but he does make good use of that time!

 

[Ruination]

Yep its the MG42, he actually posted the recipe of the new load for all the reloaders out there, but he must have taken it down. I might try to load a few of them up for myself, but I haven't shot a 12 gauge in a few years. Pretty cool of him to put that information out there.

Don't be shy now.

 

[Dr Swane]

I ordered a box of the Warchiefs to play with. About 10% better patterns than the originals for me at 40 yards with the factory full

I definitely buy into the fact that the buffered load will pattern better than the non-buffered load, what I don't buy is their claim that they have greater penetration with the same shot at the same speed with this load

Listening to the live feed. And talking with him directly, gel penetration is a measure, but not always representative of true field data/results.

I know it’s not apples to apples, but wound channel depth, paired with simultaneous impacts and proximity to other impacts/channels should add in some of the pellets penetration, similar to rifle ballistics (massive expanded channel cavitation when impacts are near on top of each other).


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Penetration in Ballistic Gelatin Block

Non Buffered #4

Average

STD Dev

Variance

4

3.875

3.625

4.75

4.5

4.5

3.9375

4.25

4.180 inches

0.3830060553

0.1466936384

Buffered #4

4.25

4.375

4.25

4.5

4.5

4.3

4.875

4.506 inches

0.2855914915

0.0815625

1. The buffered and non-buffered shot were further tested for pattern efficiency when fired at targets at distances of 30, 40 and 50 yards. Pattern efficiency was defined as the percentage of the plurality of pellets from the shotshell that struck the target inside a 30" c10050| The performance data for the buffered shot was as follows:
2. 1380 FPS Muzzle Velocity
3. 12,000 PSI
4. 30 yard Pattern Efficiency: 98.3%
5. 40 yard Patter Efficiency: 81.1%
6. 30 yard Pattern Efficiency: 629%
7. 10051| The non-buffered shot had the following performance data:
8. 1376 FPS Muzzle Velocity
9. 9,700 PSI
10. 30 yard Pattem Efficiency: 96%
11. 40 yard Pattern Efficiency: 68%
12. 50 yard Patter Efficiency: 48.6°
13. 10052) The data show that the buffered shot had improved performance in pattern efficiency. particularly “

0.4” increase in overall penetration was measured between the 2 loads. Again, just a measurement in some testing.