Bumpers

Missy Skeeter

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Bumpers...They typically will last for many years
Plastic or canvas, orange, white or black & white?
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Here are some thoughts on bumpers.
I like canvas for quick training sessions in the yard when its super cold.
The canvas bumpers are warm from being inside and I think are a better
reward than plastic bumpers that can quickly cool to below freezing.
A couple disadvantages of canvas are they get muddy with water training
and they are typically more expensive than plastic bumpers.

An alternative to canvas for cold winter training is to encase plastic
bumpers with thick black socks. Canvas bumpers will shed snow better though.

Plastic bumpers and Blind Retrieve Training.
Canines have di-chromatic vision so they do not perceive orange as well as humans.
We use orange bumpers for blinds because we want to develop a heads-up run to the end of the field attitude.
With white bumpers, a youngster may be confused the first time he runs a water blind
in a pond full of white water lilly blossoms or a field with white rocks.

We typically don't use birds in blind because we don't want drag-back scent
which would promote a youngster to go into "hunt mode" instead of thinking
run long to a distant destination at the end of the field.
Also it is easier to see a floating orange bumper in weedy water so the handler
sometimes knows the exact line to the blind.
For walking baseball, I like to use 3 inch orange bumpers because the handler
needs to know the location of several bumpers and casts are typically long.

Marks.
Our club typically uses dead ducks for marks in group training because they are a better canine reward than bumpers.
For youngsters, I like to run last so there is lots of duck scent in the area of the fall from previous throws...
that way when the youngster achieves the area of the fall, lots of duck scent to keep him persistently hunting until success.
For youngsters we also typically walk up closer to the thrower so the retriever
learns to focus and run to the mark location and not to simply run to the thrower and hunt.

The biggest problem with birds is expense...they cost over $30 per frozen duck up here in Alaska.
So we typically use-freeze-reuse many times and a duck can last for many training sessions
if wrapped in newspaper before freezing and used in land marks.
I use a cardboard beer 12-pack box which fits 4 ducks perfectly.
That way they stack in the freezer nicely and a quick count of cardboard boxes times 4 = total ducks left.
Plus I enjoy beer during the warm endless summer days of interior Alaska.

On non-club training days, we typically use black & white bumpers for marks because the black portion
contrasts with the bright sky while the white portion contrasts with the dark forest backgrounds.
For super long marks we typically use 3 inch black & white bumpers with black & white
ribbons that flutter as the bumper is falling.
For super long marks, when the challenge is the line getting to the area of the fall,
we will often "salt" the area of the fall by pre-planting several bumpers in the area.
That way when the retriever gets to the destination there is quick success in finding a bumper.
A trick I learned from Mike Lardy: To help teach a retriever not to head swing to a shorter thrower,
we will have the super long thrower throw a mark, and at the handlers hand signal repeat throwing
a second bumper to the same area of the fall.
That promotes prolonged focus on that super long thrower instead of quickly head-swinging to a shorter thrower.

I will use an orange bumper for a very short "check-down" mark where the lesson is
to hunt carefully and with great persistence.
 

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Doggone comprehensive stuff, Skeeter - members here should enjoy (and appreciate) what you're putting up--

MG
 

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Pro tip. Shoot Mergansers during duck season and save them for training birds in the off season. They are like tanks and hold up 10 times better than a mallard for land and water marks.
 

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Dave, good stuff. I actually ran some blinds a week ago. About like home for you here now. Neg 12 this morning. When things melt I am going to start up doing some marks and blinds. Let me know if you want to do some work.

Jeff
 

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I like canvass bumpers with a black/white streamer for long marks because I am convinced you get a little more "hang time." I never really hunted divers until I became an Am dog trainer. Ringnecks last forever! It never gets cold enough here to have to worry about the temperature of bumpers. We worry more about the water temp and alligators. But, we don't have crazy-azz dog hating moose to deal with, either.
 

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All I know is black/white bumpers have been unavailable locally for a year now. That color seems easier to spot than others from my dogs point of view.
 

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Seems like I've lost about half. Me not the dog.
I've lost all the soft ones.
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He tears the valves off.
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What?
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Ropes cause me troubles.
 

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All I know is black/white bumpers have been unavailable locally for a year now. That color seems easier to spot than others from my dogs point of view.
I take cheap electric tape and wrap around the center 6 inches then a couple wraps of thin foam insulation tape .
Easy to remove if you want .
It gives a better flash, a better grip when it's cold and they get hard and a target to grab for a good hold . Been doing this with mine for years .

Bumpers are for training , not playing or chew toys .
 

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