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California's New Water Plan

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  1. Fowl Hunter

    Fowl Hunter Senior Refuge Member

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    Trump and GOP's water plan - great for cotton, almonds and golf courses. Not so good for ducks and fish.
     
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    sacbob Elite Refuge Member

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    Perhaps true, but much fairer than the current system which ignores peoples property and investments, and leans on some very suspect science.
     
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    Speckslayer Elite Refuge Member

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    The past plan has been in place for 20+ plus years and has NOT been good for the ducks and fish. It's time to try something new. This plan does allow for more pumping during high water flows but it also has new protections for fish and fowl. If it turns out to be worse for the wildlife, I will change my opinion and fight against it. If it helps the wildlife, will you change your opinion and support it?
     
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    Fowl Hunter Senior Refuge Member

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    Since 2004 CRP and gone 36 million acres to 24 million. That has hurt fish and wildlife. 1 trillions trees plan need to be planted on 36+ million acres of CRP. Money and investments will always win.

    GOP was against putting water back into the San Joaquin River.

    People that name call are not smart.
     
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    Speckslayer Elite Refuge Member

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    Not willing to answer my question?

    Since 1850, California’s population has grown by about 40,000,000 people. That has hurt fish and wildlife!
     
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    mak2782 Elite Refuge Member

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    Sounds eerily similar to Pelosi's water plan. The one where she sends most of it to Resnick and her campaign donating cronies.
     
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    Pistol Senior Refuge Member

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    Interesting....so you believe that taking another 600,000 acre feet out of the estuary will somehow help the fish?
     
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    Fowl Hunter Senior Refuge Member

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    Not a dem - Neither side has done enough - Big ag wants all the water and both parties haven't protected fish and wildlife. I believe we can have people, farming and good numbers of wildlife.
     
  9. Speckslayer

    Speckslayer Elite Refuge Member

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    We have a 25 year history with the current plan and it’s been a complete failure. In what world would anyone want to stay with a failing plan?

    This plan may not help but it “might”. There are multiple parts of the plan that are designed to help the fish including better cold water management.

    What about you? If this plan does help improve the fishery, will you change your tune and support it? Or is it more important to you to stop water transfers than to actually help the fish?
     
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    Speckslayer Elite Refuge Member

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    Despite what is being portrayed by some, this is NOT a one sided plan where farmers simply get to pump more water. Here are a couple quotes about the new water plan...

    General Manager of Grassland Water District Ricardo Ortega - “This action creates new opportunities for South of Delta wildlife refuges to transfer water to meet critical needs for our already threatened native species and waterfowl.”

    Environmental Utilities Director for the City of Roseville Rich Plecker - “Reclamation’s decision will protect carryover storage at Folsom Reservoir for the benefit of both water supplies and environmental needs.”
     

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