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ducaholic

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There are plenty of hungry biologists who would happily accept a grant for such a study, and those things are indeed being studied. So far, like always, when weather in November and December makes moving south attractive, ducks will move.
Yeah well we were told it would be studied 3 years ago by Heitmeyer and company. To date I have not heard a peep. Have you? I'm not really surprised though too much money to be made shortstopping fowl.
 

bill cooksey

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LOL
 

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There are plenty of hungry biologists who would happily accept a grant for such a study, and those things are indeed being studied. So far, like always, when weather in November and December makes moving south attractive, ducks will move.
Bill, you are being one dimensional. I have no doubt you know ducks, but I am amazed that you can't admit that shortstopping is a factor. C'mon man!
 

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Bill, you are being one dimensional. I have no doubt you know ducks, but I am amazed that you can't admit that shortstopping is a factor. C'mon man!
The word is loaded due to meaning different things to different people. The weather in recent years has become favorable to birds which stay as far north as possible. If that's shortstopping, fine. Most duck hunters use it to imply that humans are holding ducks up north with habitat...despite that habitat being a drop in the bucket to what was historically there.
He knows he’s on the inside lol
Evidently not. I keep hearing there's a lot of money to be had.
 

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The word is loaded due to meaning different things to different people. The weather in recent years has become favorable to birds which stay as far north as possible. If that's shortstopping, fine. Most duck hunters use it to imply that humans are holding ducks up north with habitat...despite that habitat being a drop in the bucket to what was historically there.

Evidently not. I keep hearing there's a lot of money to be had.
I think you need to consider how artificial habitat (intended or not) differs greatly from natural habitat that was once abundant. Always fun to go to capital lake in Pierre during the dead of winter. Birds have adapted marvelously to artificial habitats that serve one or more of their survival needs.
 

15thTN

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Waterfowl don't migrate to KY like they used to, because our winters are not what they used to be. There's multiple high dollar clubs in Ballard County, KY that would kill over a 1000 ducks a year easy. Clubs full of doctors, lawyers, and etc ie big money. No matter how good their habitat, and it's the best money can buy, they have nothing to shoot.

I heard of one this year that didn't kill a duck, and not so far in the past was amazing. Not to mention the heyday of Canada geese in west KY. Where people were waiting in line, to cycle in a pit to get their limit. 3-4yrs ago we got a good arctic front that lasted for weeks, with a big snow. Guess what the geese showed up until the front petered out. Obviously many things have changed waterfowl behavior, but debating anything but changing weather patterns, is like debating over rearranging the deck chairs of the Titanic.
 

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When we had the deep freeze this year there were thousands of mallards standing on the ice. It was cold enough the ice was 8" thick but there was no snow cover. With the explosion of corn/bean rotation in the last 30 years and the lack of snow, even sub zero temps wont move them. There isnt a flooded corn impoundment within 100 miles of me. Also even with my ice eater going, and being under the feeding flight, they went from ice, to a corn field, and back to ice. I shot one duck in 4 days.
 

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I live and hunt on the southwestern shore of lake Michigan. I would see more mallards in one day during the 80s & 90s than I do in a 60 day season now
 
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