Calling all guides

splitwad

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I've always made my own hunts as a point of pride. I believe that there are very few areas that a man, given enough time, cannot make his way into and make a good hunt.

A good guide saves this time and can/should improve you odds.

I've only hunted with three guides in the past. One was of the finest stuff and a pleasure to be around. He was selling the "sizzle" as well as the "steak" so to speak. I didn't mind getting out my wallet that day. The second was a good enough hunter and fimilar with the area (considering he lived there his whole life he better be) but he was so full of himself it made it a bit difficult to enjoy the hunt. In spite of this I would still jump in a boat with him again.

The third is was a piece of work.......A buddy of mine dug this guy up and we booked a hunt with him for a spring goose hunt in MO. This was done as a time saver. I was born and raised in SD and now live in IA. I've hunted these birds all my life. I own the usual ungodly amount of shells and rags. My buddy booked the fellow to save time on scouting/finding a field, setting up...etc. This guy was from WI. Not the hub of snow goose hunting. The hunt was a joke. We had horrible wheather and everything went south over night. The next morning we found ourselves looking at a water set with decoys froze in upside down.....rags that had half frozen to the ground. Some of these had torn free and now looked like laundry in hanging on a line. I didn't think he was serious. To make a long story short. Only one flock of snows looked at us all morning. These didn't get under 100 yards to us. HE CALLED THE SHOT!!!! I didn't shoot.

NOW.......I know a guide doesn't control the wheather or the birds. He has to book hunts in advance to make a living. Is it out of line to ask to split the difference on the fee for a hunt that is obviously not going to be productive? I expect a good job from my mechanic, and I expect proper service from the man working on the addition to my house. Should I have to accept a pair of raised arms and a laughing "thats hunting" as an excuse for poor service.

Please don't tell me that we should have researched this guide a bit further....that is obvious. I'm asking what you reputable guides out there do when faced with a hunt that has tanked.
 

GH101

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I give half of the money back to the person or persons, or I will put it towards another hunting date for them. What ever they want. The only time I will not do it is if the person acts like an a hole to me or the other two guides that help me out, we try our best and when it has failed, well we make good to our costumers . And the bands we do get, we give them to the costumer, we do not keep them for our self. Even if I know darn sure I shot it, I will give it to them just to make the costumer happy. They keep you in business so why not make them happy so they will have good things to say about you.
 

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That's another reason why I gave up guiding. Money is worth something to me, never coming to me easy. I figured every trip for me might be the trip of a lifetime for my sports, and I took it all way too deep to heart. So when the going gets really tough, I'd really get going, but some days you can do it all and still not achieve your goal. Some days, you work your butt off for nothing, and give the folks a rain check, and work your butt of for nothing again. So, I went back to hunting for just myself and my buds and I'm a whole lot happier, mostly because, since I'm not paying myself, the money is out of it and I'm a lot easier to please that way. :D
 

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Most cases split the loss with the client and if we really think you can bring back biz we may even wave the cost and expect you back in the hole in the am. :D
 

20gabismuth

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Originally posted by splitwad
To make a long story short. Only one flock of snows looked at us all morning. These didn't get under 100 yards to us. HE CALLED THE SHOT!!!! I didn't shoot.

Don't even get me started!!!!:mad:
 

HARDCORE 4 LIFE

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guides suck.......and worse are tha people who use them!!:mad:
 

arkhunter

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I guided last year for the first time.

I did it for two different operations and in both cases it wasnt up to me to decide any discount, etc. I was just the guide, not the owner.

One guy I guided for didnt offer any discount on a "bad" hunt. You booked X number of days and you paid for X number of days no matter what the hunting was like.

The other one would usually give a discount. If you stayed two or three days and it was all bad (as alot of them seemed to be last year) he would only charge you for one day or something like that.
 

mallarddrake007

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First of all let me tell Slimshady to grow up. I am a guide and I do not suck, nor do the people I guide. I have made some good friends through guiding. Just because you don't use one, or have never had the opportunity to go to a new location to need one, does not make it wrong.

Splitwad,

Sorry about your hunt. Yes you should check refrences in advance of booking. There is a big difference in a bad hunt and a great hunt, and it is not all about the kill. I think from your post that you do realize this.

As a guide I will do everything possible to show you a good time. No one can control the weather or the migration of the waterfowl. We will find some thing to shoot or some fish to catch or at least cook eat and have some good drinks by the fire.

If we are having a bad season we will call out booked clients and give them the option of rescheduling or just coming to hunt out the deposit. If they are already there and the weather or birds and bad we will let them hunt the deposit or sometimes give them an extra day or two to hunt if scheduling permits.

Ask around before you book.
 

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We hired a guide for snows last season while in arkansas, checked him out with some guys here on the fuge. We seen tons of birds, had some come within 70yrds "he did not call the shot", hunted all day, he supplied lunch, when the hunt was over he said we owed him nothing :eek: A few days after we got home I got a letter from him with a check for our deposit in it. He said he was sorry for the poor hunt and hoped we would call him next time we needed a guide. YOU BETTER BELIEVE I WILL.
 

20gabismuth

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That's a good, honest, respectful guide hhaven!! A lot of them have one thing in mind, THE DOLLAR!!!! Stick with this guy, he understands the customer first theory!!
 
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