Did you see the article in the Demazet today?

Keith,

There will always be those who don't believe, but you would think that the evidence would have much more support than what it does. When half the population or better thinks the evidence used to justify this spending is not good evidence, something is bad wrong. The evidence and that video were pretty pathetic. We ought to get better than 90% support, right?

Perfect example - I've never seen a Condor, but I believe there's a couple of them left from the evidence I have seen.

I guess I just need to get a blurry video of a bird with a little white on the back of its wings and see if I can't get filthy rich over this too.

If additional money is raised and land is purchased, the bad thing that's going to happen is that when enough people get convinced there actually is a bird there, hunting will most likely be completely shut down in that area. (Yeah you can go in there with a permit, but how many people get a permit?) That will be not only more public land that hunters can't access, but just that much more refuge areas for the ducks. We have enough of those already that it's ruining hunting.

 

The solution to banning woodpecker guides is for everyone to start emailing the AGFC, on a daily basis, and complain. If that is what it takes, that's what needs to be done.

I will be honest I was never in favor of banning ducks guides (and I am not a duck guide). It didn't resolve any overcrowding, but more importantly I thought it wasn't right to ban one group of people making money on public property, and not all others.

(I don't want to start a debate on that).

But, it seems even more relevant now. If one group can't guide, no group should be able to guide.

 

The only restriction is on a fraction of the Cache NWR and you're only required to get a permit before you go out to the managed access area.

The above is a true statement. It is only 5000 acres in Managed Access areas. But the 5 MAA areas effectively block thousands of acres. You cant travel across any MAA area to an open area without the permit. Last year you could egress across CRNWR to Dagmar is your weapon or bow was enclosed. This year the rules are changed. The result is the same. No access.

Say it again MG.

 

As a side bar to this deal, the G&F discussed this very matter at the September meeting of the Commissioneers. They officially placed it on the October meeting agenda. It was brought up, discussed very little & TABLED at that time, I thought until the next meeting in November. Well, the November meeting has come & gone and it was not even discussed at all? I thought tabled placed it under Old Bussiness? What is the statis of this Tabled Matter as of now? Under Roberts Rules of Order, when old business is not brought up a the next meeting & a new motion is made on it, it dies & is no longer on the agenda. The whole matter is now dead from lack of action. All they did is talk about it & did nothing at all! It was just tabled & died from no action at all!


When it comes to dealing with matters concearning the Birders, the G&F has tucked tail & run every time. They will make a show as if they are going to do something, but never get the deal done. The way they have handled this issue is just like a person that claims to be the Fire Chief. He is the one in charge of fighting the fire & is the boss of all the firemen on the sceane. He is the very one that has control of the fire hose & the personal at the sceane of the fire. But when it come time to fight the fire, he won't turn loose of the hose for somone who will fight the fire to use, but runs backwards from it because the fires to hot, leaving leaving the one who would fight the fire standing their with nothing at all to use & watching the fire consume the structure knowing they could of saved it if they had something to work with!

Why is it that everyone else can see the smoke of the pending fire that is smoldering & all are in agreement of what needs to be done, but the Fire Chief we have in charge won't act? It is as if they keep looking over their sholders at the Big Chief behind the deal & waiting on them to tell them what to do. Who is in charge here? It is your territory, the fire in on your watch, you were the ones called out to fight it, & you are the only ones we see who is wearing the Chiefs hat, so as of right now, it's your job to tend to it one way or the other! The only real action anyone can see being done at this time is action that meets the needs of what the other Chief's want done & what meets their wants for their agenda. It is time to be the Chief if thats what you claim to be. Either say Yes or No on the issue. A Chief make decissions, either right or wrong. They don't stand there & look important & do nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By bringing it up, taking about it, placing it on the agenda, & then them tabling the issue and not even bring it back up at the next meeting as Old Business and letting the issue die, shows a clear view of the intent to the way this is to be handled. Do nothing at all but what they are told. They have shown quite clear they are not willing to bring out the hoses & tend to the smolding fire that is smoking, knowing that it will erupt into a full blown blaze. Whats the deal here. Are they sitting back & wating on the Chief of another Fire Dept. that has now shown up on the sceane to come in & take control. The problem is that the new Chief's agenda is to save the whole city. He is not worried about saving the small area that the local dept. is in charge of protecting. The new Chief is going to let the fire consume our local area & in the process tell all others that this is all in the best interest of the whole. That seems to be what has allready happen! The local Chief has stood aside & let the Chief of the Big Dept. come in & take charge. And the bad thing about it is if the local Cheif had acted when smoke was first seen, the fire would have been put out before even a blaze was seen.

Maybe it's time that we start looking for a New Chief in the local Fire Dept. if the one that we have now is not willing to face the heat of the fire in order to protect the local property he is in charge of protecting! He still wants to take our dues money and spend it not on fighting our fires anymore, but now he wants to use it fighting fires for other people, all the while letting our property & interest burn to the ground from lack of action!

Why are we even required to have to pay dues to a Dept. that threw it's leadership is not willing to protect the interest of the ones under their protection anymore? They have turned those duties over to someone else. If we are not getting the protection we have paid for now from this Dept. & they have now demied to use our properties to cater to others for their agenda, are we still required to keep paying our dues to them because they have turned thier job over to someone else?

Why do we have to pay membership dues to an organization when our membership means nothing in the end when we need them the most!