EV's

[wingmatt]

1) Maybe but it will probably be Natural Gas. I have seen some pretty neat tech that transitions natural gas power plants to Hydrogen.

2) Are you against burning fossil fuels?
3) Water the tree of liberty over what kind of motor is in your car if you want but I wanted an electric vehicle and the market provided one so I bought it.

1) LOL, I assume that is tongue-in-cheek? There are pressures to restrict Natural Gas, even here in Washinton state:

Washington council significantly restricts use of natural gas heating in new commercial buildings

The use of natural gas or electricity in future commercial building heating systems in Washington will be significantly restricted after the State Building Code Council adopted two new revisions to the state’s energy code. Starting next year, new businesses and apartments will mostly use heat...

www.spokesman.com

There are also pressures to restrict, or not approve, natural gas pipelines. There are many places in the US putting restrictions on natural gas.

2) I'm not against burning fossil fuels, especially where it's efficient like in ICe vehicles

3) If you want an e-car, that's your free-will decision. We have a new ICE vehicle on order. Of all the criteria concerning e-cars and ICE cars, I could not see one advantage at all for e-cars for me. I hope you thank the rest of us for help paying for your car ....

 

[WidgeonmanGH]

I hope you thank the rest of us for help paying for your car ....

Thank you. And you are welcome from me for supporting your gas prices.

I am not against burning fossil fuels, I would just prefer not to and I hate ICE motors and what it takes to maintain them
Fossil fuels will be part of the energy mix for the foreseeable future. I like the article I posted before that said we will probably eventually go to about 80% renewables to 20% other types to bridge the variable nature of solar and wind.

 

[Bclick]

Interesting

 

[WidgeonmanGH]

Read the article that critiqued and refuted this guy and pointed out some of his connections to the indust he represents.

 

[Bclick]

Read the article that critiqued and refuted this guy and pointed out some of his connections to the indust he represents.

Oh I'm sure. Anyone that speaks common sense to the subject will be critiqued. Of course we know there will be no increased demand for minerals, no affects in the environment and all will be swell, well until the grid is demanding the same components for its storage since a solar wind grid is only producing during the daytime.

The goal if this is of course to reduce if not eliminate personal transportation. They'll kill ICE, not be able to deliver on demand for an all carbon free grid and folks will just have to adapt. With the Dutch providing the model for food production your bug sandwich will go swell with your public transit commute to your soon to be AI eliminated job.

 

[Bclick]

CA Insider is a fascinating channel if you want to see what terrible.shape.noosums state is really in

 

[tcc]

Generations before mine have made decisions that got us way down this path. Ultimately, if we use this opportunity to become more energy independent relying on local energy production and diversifying our grid (even our personal grid) so as to not need as much oil from foreign places then this will be a net benefit for our country.

You bring this up all the time, and seem to have some naive idea that if we'd just put up some more windmills and everyone would buy EV's that we'd suddenly downsize our military and their operations and forget about the rest of the world. Nice idea, but here in the real world that will never happen. Our interests may shift, but our need to protect them will remain.

 

[WidgeonmanGH]

Our interests may shift, but our need to protect them will remain.

Is that what we are doing in Syria, Somalia, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine?

I don't feel particularly protected.

 

[tcc]

Is that what we are doing in Syria, Somalia, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine?

I don't feel particularly protected.

Didn't say they were protecting you, although I'm pretty sure we have folks fighting terrorism and such.

Do you honestly though think that we're going to reduce our military operations to any significant degree if we force a transition to EV's? We were energy independent not to long ago, but pretty sure they were still pretty active.

 

[SRW]

the rabid base.

Meaning parents that don't want adult male perverts using on the same teams and in the same locker rooms as their daughters

All for no subsidies if it is an even hand. (which it is not Oil gets way more money than EVs)

If you use leftist math.