For the 20ga crowd

Discussion in 'Shooting - Reloading Forum' started by Larry Welch, May 19, 2021.

  1. JP

    JP Elite Refuge Member

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    And, you can accomplish much the same efficacy with one barrel by utilizing steel (30-40 yards) and HTL as the second and/or third cartridges behind it.
     
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    If you are being intellectually honest about your shooting circumstances, #5 steel will ably TCOB as 10 gm/cc pellets (at those ranges) isn’t necessary.
     
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    JP Elite Refuge Member

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    These type threads dealing with HTL pellets almost always degenerate into the track(s) of call better, set stools better, camo up better, et al and/or most guys cannot kill birds beyond 30 yards.....

    To the first argument I would say that the birds don’t always cooperate as in a hunting porn video. So, if you want to kill birds, you must adapt, improvise and overcome otherwise, you’re just a camo’ed up birdwatcher.

    To the second argument and let’s assume it’s accurate...who’s fault is that? Is it a deficit of commitment to learning and honing wing shooting skill? Is it simply a lack of ability that no amount of instruction and practice will alleviate? In those two instances, perhaps another avocation would be the better option.

    I am not a show pony shooter just blessed with the knack for being able to kill birds at range. J. H. has hunted with some of the gunners I hunt with and knows they are pretty darn good shooters in their own right. All that I am saying is these (HTL) pellets have opened up an entirely new paradigm to killing waterfowl and to decry the appropriate implementation of such in the field is a small minded characteristic reminiscent of the Luddite philosophy. To everyone else, I would say this product is definitely the real deal and worthy of a legitimate experience to see if they will enhance your experience afield.
     
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    Well, it better!
    I have no problems with the way 40-cents-a-shot steel loads work within those distances.
     
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    You do Realize with any type of payload , the object is , putting it on the target ? When that can be accomplished more than 1 in 5 times up ,
    Steel Shot really does a good job and the only way to improve it , is to reload it yourself ! When you understand what your Gun / Choke likes ,
    it's a new ballgame !
    Shoot what you need to eat , spare the rest to fill the skies !
     
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    In an effort to bring this thread back to center, I'll add my .02 cents about my first season exclusively shooting a Weatherby 20g Semi for ducks.

    I shoot Carlson IC, LM, and M in the sporting clay tubes and have found they pattern like they're supposed with proportionate differences between them. My biggest concern going down to the 20 gauge was losing the pattern density rather than the mythical loss/need of extended range. With that said, I bought a case of Kent Upland 2 3/4 7/8 #5s at 1500fps, along with some other 1oz loads, and the upland has been a real killer. I really liked the pellet counts on the 7/8 #5s and they proved very effective, along with having very low recoil. With the increased pellet count I dropped down to IC and it did really well. I'd jump to LM with 3s and 4s. I really wish they sold that shell in a #4 with the 7/8 and 1500fps speed. I'd buy that and shoot it almost exclusively. Any time I was shooting wood ducks or knew it to be a teal shoot, I'd shoot the uplands and love every minute of it. If I knew we were targeting big ducks, I'd opt for Rio 1oz #3 at 1400fps. However, I got a bad case of Rios and had to buy a crimping tool to fix ALL of them. I plan on getting the Kent's in the 1oz 3s,4s this year (think they're at 1350fps) along with some more upland steel. All other 2 3/4 shells don't match that speed with the 7/8 load.... only the 5s in upland steel. Seems like they could fix that.
     
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    Another vote for the Kent Upland load in #5's.
     
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    A hand load of #5 steel. The barrel was purchased from the new guys in Ohio.
     
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    Same gun/load but with FULL tube onboard.
     
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    I agree the kent upland steel #5's was one of my favorites I shot mallards with em too if I was hunting creeks with shots from 30yards and under... they hammered woodies for sure
     

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