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From CWA's website written by their Biological staff.....Mallards 7 vs. 5

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  1. Refugeguy

    Refugeguy Elite Refuge Member

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    Few hundred acres of wheat across from my house has 20plus mall nests . No here close to the “survey zone “ a close by bass pond has 5 nests that I can see. . I saw 2 nests on old houseboats at pine flat yest. Maybe mallards are just smarter than the biologists?
     
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  2. Dan Mallia

    Dan Mallia Elite Refuge Member

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    I spent some time cruising around the NE Zone in some obscure places this past weekend, put lots of miles on the UTV and every puddle, stock tank, pond, lake, reservoir, creek and river I went by had a pair or multiple pair of mallards on them. Not saying this means the mallards are doing awesome but don't know if this is an area that gets surveyed.......
     
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  3. lugnut

    lugnut Elite Refuge Member

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    Don`t worry, it`s factored in. :tu
     
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  4. Refugeguy

    Refugeguy Elite Refuge Member

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  5. Calikev

    Calikev Elite Refuge Member

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    They fly the same transects every year. Those transects cover a lot of ground but not everywhere. The data is for comparison from year to year and that is what establishes the averages. By no means is it ever going to account for birds moving around outside the area and this is another reason why they use the entire PF model vs. just CA.

    Birds have wings. They can hide pretty well. It is all just estimates but you can factor in at least they are doing the same thing each year.
     
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  6. pumpgunner

    pumpgunner Elite Refuge Member

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    Haven’t cwa lobbyists been using the science argument to help fight against all the hunting bans that have been coming out of Sacramento. Guess “the board” hasn’t been reading the emails or the cwa magazine that come out. Kinda hurts the argument
     
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    Wood-Dro Elite Refuge Member

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    What a sad state of affairs this has become with this entire debacle. It's no wonder why duck hunters are dying out, we can even get on the same page amongst ourselves.
     
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  8. Calikev

    Calikev Elite Refuge Member

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    Bingo....

    This is exactly what I framed up in my letters to Merlo and Carlson. Consistency is important. Our only enemy isn't the loss of habitat or a losing couple of mallards in the bag. It is the anti's circling the wagons.
     
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  9. Dan Yparraguirre

    Dan Yparraguirre Senior Refuge Member

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    3 things. I suck at bass fishing. The mallard harvest stats are on the CWA graph in the link in the original post. The survey coverage is in the annual report. Look for the CDFW waterfowl page for the link.

    No survey covers 100% of the range of a widespread species like mallards. Instead the survey covers the "more important" areas. This is a cost/time/efficiency issue.
     
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  10. gulicemo

    gulicemo Elite Refuge Member

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    Nice to have a scientific minded individual like DYP contributing.
     
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