I am confused, again........

Discussion in 'Shooting - Reloading Forum' started by Matt Barnard, Aug 12, 2019.

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    The reality is the older 22-250 1-14" barrels are designed for the 52gr HP match bullets. Back then the choice was Flat Base or boat tail. You would try each then whichever your rifle liked. That is what you shot. If you wanted to shoot a hunting bullet. You shot a 55gr flat base. Some rifles will shoot the 64gr winchester PP or 70gr Speer Semi Pointed ok as long as you are not trying to stretch the range. My 1-14" 22-250 shoots the 64gr winchesters ok. But here is the catch. I have seen 1" groups at 200 yards turn to 8" at 400. The 45gr solid copper TSX might work. I have been doing a bit of work with them. Still looking for the best powder for them. They do not like my first couple choices. You want short bullets for the 1-14. 55gr flate base spitzers run in the .690" to .715" this is sweet spot for hunting bullet length in a 1-14.
     
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    The 50 gr and heavier Lead Free bullets may not stabilize through a 1-14" or 1-12" twist because the Lead Free bullets are so much longer than the same weight lead bullets are.
    Barnes use to have some barrel twist warnings on some of their Lead Free 22 cal bullets.
     
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    So Bob , what would you suggest shooting out of my Ruger 77 Flatbolt in 22/250 in lead free ?
    It will stack 55 gr FB Noslers , very accurate .
     
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    Some manufacturers are stating a 1-7 - 1-8 twist rate is need with longer lead free bullets.
    Oh the joys of saving the world and trying to use rifles made for lead bullets with lead free bullets!!
     
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    If you looked at the Barnes data they are listing Accurate 2520 as the best powder choice for the 45 grain bullet.
    I have 3/4 of a pound in the shop doing nothing if you want it.
    https://www.barnesbullets.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/22-250Remington.pdf
     
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    I have had terrific shooting with my #1 using Speer 52 gr with the flat top hollow points. 36 grains of H-380 sent them off at 3660. However, this weekend, my cousin and his son are coming for 3 days of cast and blast. I don't have any reloaded, and my stuff is still packed away from the flood this spring. So, I went to our local SG store and decided upon Hornady 55 gr. Ballistic tips for the Ruger#1, and 50 gr. Ballistic tips for my Savage 112VSS. I'll let you know how they work when I get back next week. Thanks to all for sharing your knowledge.
     
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    I would try the Nosler BT Lead Free Varmint 50 gr bullet first and then the Barnes 50 gr Varmint Grenade.

    I have had great results shooting ground squirrels with the Hornady 35 gr NTX lead free bullets out of my 223 Ai's but for coyotes I like the 50 to 55 gr bullets out of my 1-8" twist 22-250. It absolutely sucks to have to shoot a lead free 35 to 40 gr bullet out of a 220 Swift or a 22-250.
     
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    I printed that out after I bought the 45gr. It is fire season here. So I do not go out shooting until we get some rain.
     

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