In lieu of the recent bad news from up North

Discussion in 'Chesapeake Flyway Forum' started by rbr, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. bxcall1

    bxcall1 Senior Refuge Member

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    What the heck are AP and RP?
     
  2. Montauker

    Montauker Elite Refuge Member

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    Atlantic Population and Resident Population.

    RP birds are both local golf course birds and birds that breed in Northeast United States and then migrate south.

    If you hear @SkeeterMD say that "TP are in the toilet", he's not talking about geese.
     
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  3. bxcall1

    bxcall1 Senior Refuge Member

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    Thanks. Don’t know how you tell the difference. Here if it’s flying we can shoot it.
     
  4. bxcall1

    bxcall1 Senior Refuge Member

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    Thanks. Don’t know how you tell the difference. Here if it’s flying we can shoot it.
     
  5. Valleyhonker

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    Do you believe the restrictive season would extend outside of the AP zone? To the SJBP and the RP areas? I certainly don’t see any negatives in doing so for the overall population. With a 1 bird limit in the east, hunters will travel west to continue smacking them which could still prove detrimental. Or am I missing the big picture that the AP population is such a different
     
  6. Montauker

    Montauker Elite Refuge Member

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    This is my "I slept at Holiday Inn last night" opinion.

    There may be a scientific reason to keep SJBP and RP limits the same or at least not as low AP, and that is band collection. Will AP birds get killed in the SJBP and RP areas, yes, but that rather small by-catch will likely be inconsequential and help to better understand if AP birds are inhabiting those non-AP areas at increasing levels.

    People will get bent out of shape about it because a guy in Easton will see a Facebook post of a massive tailgate shot out of Frederick or PA.
     
  7. carolina girl

    carolina girl Elite Refuge Member

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    .....and then call their Easton bands in as if shot in Frederick and Pa.
     
  8. Ruination

    Ruination Senior Refuge Member

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    Thats interesting. The rumor I hear are the opposite, and make more sense.
     
  9. Montauker

    Montauker Elite Refuge Member

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    It's Friday, I got bored. I'm putting this up to demonstrate harvest rates per state. MD shoots more geese than NY and PA, though typically not collectively more than those two states.

    Not on the chart- MD hunters shoot more geese per hunter than PA; NY hunters shoot more geese per hunter than MD (those figures includes snows).

    This is based on available USFWS data. The methodology behind the data is another conversation.
     
  10. carolina girl

    carolina girl Elite Refuge Member

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    Why would it make sense to call an RP band in in AP zone?
     

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