Although I am a strong advocate in protecting the species, and at the risk of being referred to as "stupid" again ... I merely want to point out the inconsistencies in the reports and the methods of data collection. For example, yesterday I harvested a doe, and by law I was specifically required to "call it in" that is definitive proof of the harvest. When I dropped it off at the processors, there was a DNR team there surveying the harvest for age and other biological data. Boots on the ground collecting Harvest Data - a good thing Valid statistical data being collected. I have harvested quite a few geese on the Eastern Shore since 1974. Other than what gets filled in on my HIP report, there is no active survey being performed on the geese I have shot ( unless I shoot a banded goose). Not saying that we should be calling in our goose harvest information, but there is no real method of calculating the harvest except for statistical review of volunteered information 5-8 months later. Once again, I reiterate - I am all for protecting the resource, but my point has always been that I do not believe that the biologist have a handle on the data Specifically from the report cited above: Using banding and band recovery data, we estimated that almost 255,600 adult geese were harvested annually in the U.S. portion of the Atlantic Flyway (2012 sic). This is considerably less than the average annual harvest of approximately 507,800 adult geese estimated by the U.S. National Waterfowl Harvest Survey for the same years That means that the USFW estimate is 50% off the biologist/banding teams reported data... Any scientific endeavor that has a range of 50% is deemed a failed analysis... yet this information is continually collected and evaluated even though it is cannot be confirmed with parallel studies. I am all for limiting and or closing the season on our beloved geese... we will all grumble and get through it, but lets also take the time to create a better way to evaluate the population and its distribution. There is the duck wing collection program, I am sure they could do a goose wing collection program in order to evaluate the DNA of wintering geese to ascertain what population is going where. Also, we have not determined why the AP goose population is in failure mode... It is one bad nesting season following a great nesting season - pretty weak argument because the models need to be based on more evidence... Or are we not allocating the resource properly by allowing too many days afield? Going back to the 70-80's there was a tremendous amount of pressure on the geese... Seasons starting in October running to the last Saturday in January with just one week off for deer season... 3 birds a day, and an influx of eager hunters from everywhere coming to the shore to harvest their birds...AND there was a ton of birds... fall flights to the eastern shore that blackened the sky when they erupted from a corn field.... so many geese that made leases ridiculous for any field anywhere on the shore... and those fields which haven't seen a goose in years produced annually! What has happened to that population? Obviously it has not been short stopped as we have ll thought based on the overall population numbers. Oil drilling in Canada? Something more obvious? - Like the lack of waste corn on the Eastern Shore Wintering grounds due to changing Agricultural practices... This is where real science needs to get involved. What and Why? Furthermore, what is it about the snow geese that have exploded their population throughout the country? We have a distinct species of snow goose here on the Delmarva, and that population has exploded parallel to the other populations of sub species throughout the Missippi and Central flyways? Why are they thriving in the same wintering habitat as the canada ( Ok I know they have also had quite a few bad nesting years recently - but you get my pint) Is this having a detrimental effect on the Canada Geese? We had let the population of geese dwindle to extremely low breeding pair numbers in the 90's and fortunately the season moratorium repaired the numbers back to a healthy range by eliminating the birds killed by hunters... I am sure that it will have the same effect again.