Is There Really Any Reason Why?

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  1. JP

    JP Elite Refuge Member

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    Newbies to this madness show up with a nine pound sledge hammer to dispatch ants?

    The quote below was lifted from the Federal Ammo newsletter I get from them every now and then:

    …"Medium-sized ducks over dekes calls for a slightly different approach. Again, we’re looking to take shots at ranges of 30 yards and in. Ducks like widgeon, gadwall and wood ducks are a tad tougher to bring down than teal, and for this reason lean a good choice would be 12-gauge 3 ½-inch Black Cloud No. 4. This load features a rear-opening FLITECONTROL FLEX wad that provides tight patterns through ported and standard chokes. The 1 ½-ounce payload of 40 percent FLITESTOPPER steel pellets married with 60 percent Premium steel promises dense patterns and larger wound channels, which is ideal should larger ducks dip into your spread. If you’re confident only medium-sized birds will be buzzing, it’s hard to beat 3-inch, 1 1/8-ounce Black Cloud FS Steel High Velocity 12 Gauge No. 4s. Again, if you tote a 20-gauge into the blind, bump up shot size to No. 3 and limit the distance of your shots accordingly.

    Larger ducks like mallards have dense feathers and a will to live that has annoyed many a hunter over the years.
    Black Cloud FS Steel 12 gauge 3 ½-inch loads with a 1 ½-ounce payload of No. 2s crumple big ducks, and should the occasional goose swing into your spread, these shells will handle the job. That said, if you expect a blend of big geese and large ducks, it wouldn’t hurt to up your shot size to BB."...

    "30 yards an in" on medium size ducks with 3 1/2" in 1 1/2 ounce of #4's...really?

    IMO, all the Harlots don't necessarily reside in Brothels.
     
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  2. derbyacresbob

    derbyacresbob Senior Refuge Member

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    And if you want to use a 20 ga on ducks use bigger shot than what you use in 12 ga 3-1/2" shells!:l
     
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  3. SkolMNDuckHunter

    SkolMNDuckHunter Senior Refuge Member

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    :dohyou'd think a company like Federal would know better... they must be getting marketing tips from EMI. What's a good load for ducks 30 yards and in? Why of course, the most expensive ones we make!
     
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    Bigger shells = bigger $$$
     
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  5. SkolMNDuckHunter

    SkolMNDuckHunter Senior Refuge Member

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    They left out the part about needing a full Sitka suit and an SBE3 to get the birds in to 30 yards though. Those 3.5" Black Clouds won't help without the rest of the git up.
     
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    Native NV Ducker Mod-Duck Hunters Forum, Classifieds, and 2 others Moderator

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    Advertising- It works
     
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    Dr Duk Elite Refuge Member

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    I thought that went within saying!:dv
     
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  8. Cameb7mm

    Cameb7mm Refuge Member

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    I guess they recommend 3.5” T shot for lessers then?
     
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    This is interesting as a waterfowlers ability falls between 30 and 60 yds and with ft lb's of recoil energy at (approximately) 16 to 55 ft lbs all that can be
    said about marketing like this is , go ahead suckers , make their day !
     

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