KS seeks info from waterfowl Hunters

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  1. ED Vanderbeck

    ED Vanderbeck Elite Refuge Member

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    Pittsburg meeting is the 13
     
  2. gold10

    gold10 Senior Refuge Member

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    For anyone that’s been to the first couple meetings I’m curious as to the format. Does the department have an agenda they work through or it an open mic session? How long did the meeting last?
     
  3. golden boy

    golden boy Elite Refuge Member

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    Should be interesting in Wichita tonight. More SE zone oriented
     
  4. whitedice

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    They had an hour long presentation primarily focused on season dates and their relation to hunter success.

    The second half was more of an open discussion, with a paper survey at the end. The meeting was about 2 hours.

    As a newer hunter I don't have alot of strong opinions on season dates, but it was worth going just to hear the presentation and listen to the discussion.
     
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  5. ED Vanderbeck

    ED Vanderbeck Elite Refuge Member

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    Come to pittsburg it will be interesting when lauber tries to pull his stuff i bet it gets heated at best
     
  6. golden boy

    golden boy Elite Refuge Member

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    Well Lauber won't be there. but if Biologist come up with data from ISportsman saying this is the only time hunters are killing ducks and when it freezes up the avg is 0, then we are dealing with some bad data. Just because the avg on a public marsh is .10 and 2 miles away on private ground a guide shoots a 11 man limit in a corn field. Bad way of deciding how to set season dates.
     
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  7. Billboard Man

    Billboard Man Senior Refuge Member

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    Great idea, keep the guides happy and the revenue rolling. Waterfowling has turned into the biggest pile of **** the past five years. Crowded public lands, a state that lies about duck numbers enforces nothing, and guiding. I hope we have a 45 day season and limit of 4 ducks and get this back to reality someday. At 3.5% US unemployment time for the "waterfowl industry" to go find a different career.
     
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  8. golden boy

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    You are missing my point.................If the guides are making a pile, stacking up 11 man limits, it means one thing, the birds are still here and the migration is on. However, it you look at ISportsmans data and see the avg on the local marsh is .08 then you are thinking the birds have all left and the season is over. So the point is, the season dates should be based on migration, and not when Joe Public can walk out in a marsh drop 12 decoys and kill his 1.3 bird avg. Surely if a guide can kill a 11 man limit, Joe Shmo should be able to kill a couple birds somewhere, just has to change his tactics.

    So there is no confusion, this is what golden boy stands for....................

    Anti guides
    Anti Spinners
    Anti Big Boats
    Anti Early Season dates
    Anti Making the SE zone smaller
    Anti Putting more than 18 inches of water in marshes
    Anti Boat ramps
    Anti putting parking lots next to marshes
    Anti Lauber
    Anti Kansas Youtubers
    Anti 3.5 inch shells
    Anti half hr before sunrise on Teal Season for shooting hrs
    Anti Sitka gear
    Anti Hen Killers
    Anti Iowa hunters
    Anti mound hunters
    Anti hunters who set up in the boat lane
    Anti Tuleman

    Carry on.............................
     
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  9. KSRedleg

    KSRedleg Elite Refuge Member

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  10. ksgoosekillr

    ksgoosekillr Senior Refuge Member

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    The only thing it means is they have deeper pockets than the next guy. But that is some *** backwards thinking if you think a public entity will set hunting dates to benefit the private hunting vs dates that would benefit the public ground that they manage... that makes perfect sense.

    you say all this that will benefit the guiding industry and then turn around and say you are anti guiding. Those avg Joe public outnumber the private/lease/guides. Get rid of opportunities for them you are getting rid of revenue, which will in turn hurt everyone. all so the minority can kill a big pile.

    by change his tactics you mean be the highest bidder?
     

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