Life in the Spirit

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  1. Buffalo Howler

    Buffalo Howler Senior Refuge Member

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    Romans 8:1-5

    “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.“

    Let’s discuss Romans 8 a few verses at a time. For some they may never have read it and for others they may be very well versed in this chapter of scripture. Chime in!
    As we can see by verse one it says that there is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. The obvious question is “What about those not in Christ Jesus”?........
    The walk a man has indicates the place he is going. Those that walk by the Spirit desire to please God. Those walking by the flesh have the desire to be a god of their own. The law was sent to reveal our sinful nature. Romans 7:7
    For those who desire to please God realize that they are not able to. The fleshy nature continues to desire things that are evil. They come to the knowledge of sin that so easily ensnares them. It is here that they come to the cross. Death to self and a new life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Praise God for the victory found in our Lord Jesus Christ that we are no longer a slave to sin!
     
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    Romans 8:6-10
    “For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
    But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.“

    Life in the Spirit is contrary to living in death. To be carnally minded is death.... This is the mind of men who belong to the world. A life focused on pride in what one has and does is carnal. This sets men as an enemy of God. Jesus Christ came into the world not only to save men from their sin but to live inside of them. To be holy and to live holy lives in this world. A Christian is a miracle from God. A sinful unholy man saved from an unholy world brought into fellowship with God through Jesus Christ our Lord. The Lord is our Righteousness.
     
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    Romans 8:11-15
    “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
    Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.“

    The Spirit of God dwells inside Christians. This will sound strange to a non-believer. They belong to the flesh and live to please the flesh. Their passions control them and they are enslaved to those desires. Death is the reward for their efforts. Those that are in Christ live by the Spirit. They have eternal life. They desire to be Holy just like their Dad. One must not be ignorant about this. The word of God lives in his people.
     
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    Romans 8:16-20
    “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
    For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,“

    If you have ever had to give testimony to an event that has taken place your witness is only as good as your word. Imagine the court systems of today where it would be impossible for a person to lie. It would negate the need for litigation. The Spirit bears witness with our spirit and we know that it is impossible for God to lie. (Hebrews 6:18)
    So what does he bear witness to? We are the children of God. Heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ. God lives in his people! God bears witness in his people and God calls us unto himself. As Jesus suffered so does creation. It too awaits the revelation of the sons of God. Do not take this lightly. The world is not going to stay the same. All things will be made new.
     
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    I think, this is the part (1st point) where most non-Believers in Jesus, get hung up. The argument (although unsure if this is the main one now) some have is they'll HAVE to give up doing ______. And don't want to cuz it's "how they have fun".

    The part that's hard to explain/get them to believe, is there comes a point in a Believers life they WANT to stop living with the sin which affects their commitment to the Lord (2nd point).
     
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    That’s been a popular belief for a long time. Many desire salvation without sanctification!
     
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    Romans 8:21-25
    “Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.“

    God is patient. Our mortal bodies are wasting away with our travail, longing for restoration. Kenny Chesney sang a song a while back about everybody wanting to go to heaven but no one wanting to go now. Well, obviously he’s not familiar with this passage of scripture. Many have a skewed education of eternity. Creation don’t. It groans. Longing for restoration. Wickedness will be repaid and punished. Nothing will be hidden and God will avenge the wicked. For those saved by grace we long for this as well as the Spirit bears witness in us.
     
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    Romans 8:26-30
    -- “Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
    And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.“

    It is evident in today’s churches that today many men claim a salvation of themselves by themselves. They boast about their ‘choice’ to follow Christ or brag about the baptism they partook in. Some are even so bold as to say the human named church they belong to is their ticket to eternal life. Read these verses carefully. God predestined, called, justified and glorified. God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble and it is by grace that you have been saved. (1 Peter 5:5) (Ephesians 2:8-9) Humble yourselves so that you too may be lifted up. (James 4:10)
     
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    Romans 8:31-35
    “What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?“

    I heard it said once that the surest way to see who the sheep and the goats are is to start a conversation about election. The Bible has much to say about this. Here is what the word actually means.

    g1588. ἐκλεκτός eklektos; from 1586; select; by implication, favorite: — chosen, elect.

    Christians are picked out or you can say chosen by God. It is a common heresy that God has chosen everyone. This is called Universalism. It’s a teaching believes that all men are destined for salvation. When you ask who God chooses they would be forced to say he has chosen everyone. This would not be a choice but an ordinance. God has ordained his law to sinful men that all will be held accountable to it yet many think by keeping the law they are saved. They are condemned. Their hearts are hardened such as Pharaoh’s. Judas Iscariot is another example as he is called the “son of perdition”. As hard as men fight it you must come to terms that you did not choose God but that God has chosen you. Those that disagree will base salvation on “merit of church” or “merits of self”. God is real yet many deny him by their testimony.
     

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