Little Joe's Caciucco

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Here is the caciucco recipe, exactly as it was prepared and served at Little Joes on Broadway on San Francisco. It is important to note a couple of items.
1) Franco Montarello, AKA "Little Joe" was from Varezze, which is a small town near Genoa. I had previously mentioned that a Genovese knew nothing about cioppino. True. But here we are not talking about cioppino, we are talking about the dish that BECAME cioppino in the New World.
2) There are several sub-recipes involved. Prepare them all, or this will just be another fish stew dish.
3) Cioppino, and for that matter cacciucco, were generally prepared with whatever fresh seafood was available. I suggest you try this recipe verbatim, and then begin to make substitutes at a second attempt.
4) The whole idea of this preparation is to not have one flavor of the seafood overpower another. That is why there are not huge amounts of anything, except crab, which does have a milder flavor.
5) This recipe is for 1 person, but may serve 2 of lesser appetites. If you are going to prepare this dish for several people, it is very important that the seafood be sauteed according to the recipe, then you can transfer it to a larger pot and serve it. In other words, if you are cooking for 12, you must prepare 12 individual recipes and then combine them to serve. This dish gets it's distinctive flavor from the 1 pan preparation. Dump a bunch of ingredients in a pot, boil, then serve, this will give a good stew, si, but it ain't caciucco. Have fun.

CACIUCCO

1 1 1/2# crab, pre-boiled and cracked
3 clams, scrubbed
4 mussels, debearded and scrubbed
7 small prawns
1/3# fillet of rock cod or other white fish
3 tbl olive oil
1 tbl minced garlic
1/3 c dry white wine
1 c broth*
1 c Little Joe's tomato sauce*

Heat the olive oil on high heat, and add the minced garlic. IMMEDIATELY add all the seafood, and sautee quickly over high heat, until the garlic has just begun to become pungent and the rock cod is half way cooked. Keeping the heat high, add the wine, broth and tomato sauce, and simmer on high heat until the liquid had reduced by one cup and the clams and mussels have opened. All i all this preparation should take about 6-8 minutes.

Serve immediately with a generous sprinkling of chopped parsley and if you like, fennel fronds.

SUB RECIPES

BRODO (BROTH)
1 gallon water
5# chicken bones
4 stalks of celery
3 unpeeled carrots
2 unpeeled onions, cut in half
(boiled chicken, beef trimmings, and beef tongue can also be cooked in this broth)

Place all ingredients in a large stock pot and bring to a rapid boil. Reduce to a simmer ans simmer for 4 hours. Strain and refrigerate. Remove all congealed fat before using.

LITTLE JOE'S TOMATO SAUCE

2 quarts crushed tomato in heavy puree
2 quarts chicken broth
4 stalks celery, chopped fine
3 white onions, chopped fine
1 tbl ground oregano
1 tsp dried rosemary
2 fresh bay leaves
2 tbl chopped fresh sweet basil
1/4 c minced garlic
2 tbl black pepper
1/4 c salt
1/2 c olive oil
1/4 c corn starch dissolved in 1/2 c water

Bring all ingredients to a boil, then reduce to simmer and simmer for 2-4 hours, until sauce is thick. If further thickening is needed then add the cornstarch mixture. Refrigerate overnight.

All this may seem like a tremendous amount of work to some of you. As I said, you can simply throw some chopped tomatoes, broth, seafood and aromatics into a pot and let it cook. Although I will say that once you have developed a method for cioppoino based on this recipe, nothing else will ever do. And you may not say "cioppino" ever again. Maybe you'll even bring some duck hunting.......

Dandy
 

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Thank you sir for taking the time to do this.
I myself being cajun oriented, with an Italian Palermo dad, look at this
and wonder a few things. My father would not label this Italian.
Nor would mama label it Cajun.
It's a fusion dish, and just about all I cook anymore.
The Rosemary would set both of them back, but I love Rosemary.
Dad would have gone for fennel instead, mom probably thyme.
That sweet basil also has so wide an influence on flavor that I wonder
about the timing.
Also the ground oregano would turn both of them off and me too.
Also I dont understand why you would use chicken broth, even home made
which is what I always do, to make this dish. I would prefer shrimp shell and
crab shell broth with some fish bones.
I guess it has something to do with flavor partiality for the seafood giving it an extra contrast to the rest of the dish.
But it's interesting none the less.
Still, it looks like tourist food.
Nothing personal here, just sayin.....
 
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And please, if you can in text here, please tell me how you pronounce that.
If I am going to cook it I want to know how to pronounce it's name as I do
with many others.
 

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Thank you sir for taking the time to do this.
I myself being cajun oriented, with an Italian Palermo dad, look at this
and wonder a few things. My father would not label this Italian.
Nor would mama label it Cajun.
It's a fusion dish, and just about all I cook anymore.
The Rosemary would set both of them back, but I love Rosemary.
Dad would have gone for fennel instead, mom probably thyme.
That sweet basil also has so wide an influence on flavor that I wonder
about the timing.
Also the ground oregano would turn both of them off and me too.
Also I dont understand why you would use chicken broth, even home made
which is what I always do, to make this dish. I would prefer shrimp shell and
crab shell broth with some fish bones.
I guess it has something to do with flavor partiality for the seafood giving it an extra contrast to the rest of the dish.
But it's interesting none the less.
Still, it looks like tourist food.
Nothing personal here, just sayin.....
Thanks for sharing YOUR preferences with us. Geez Louise!

Dandy, just reading this is making me need to put my daughter making this. Thanks!
 

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Can you make big batches of broth and tomato sauce for 12 and then make 12 individual batches of the caciucco?
 

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I'm headed to the ocean to catch some crabs and fish this weekend just for this
 

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This is not MY recipe. This is, as stated, from Little Joe's in San Francisco. Honestly, I don't care if anyone likes it or what their opinion of it is. You guys asked, here it is. I've made it, note by note, as described, and it was phenomenal. My cioppino recipe is vastly different. But this recipe kicks butt, period. I'm really not interested in what anyone thinks is right or wrong about it. Cioppino is like gumbo.........everyone's recipe is different, and everyone's recipe is the best and only way to do it. I've got a few bona fides. I'm a bit of a culinary scholar. I have a degree in culinary arts. I've been cooking for 30 years, in restaurants in SF, East Bay, and Marin. I'm over whether or not anyone likes my cooking or style, or recipes. I'm certain most of you will try this recipe and freaking love it. The only way to do it wrong or screw it up is by overcooking the seafood. Other than that, you're golden.

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Can you make big batches of broth and tomato sauce for 12 and then make 12 individual batches of the caciucco?
Yes. However you need to follow the amounts correctly for each individual batch.

Dandy
 

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