Looking for Someone to Blame?

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  1. widgeon

    widgeon Elite Refuge Member

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    It's not that hard. I am not a numbers or statistics expert, but it seems to me if we stopped closing hospitals there would be more room for patients in a crisis such as this.

    What we have now.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/us/southwest-georgia-icu-units-full/index.html

    "This is a problem we know we have in Albany and Dougherty County but if we don't do something about it and our partners in surrounding counties don't do something about it health systems throughout southwest Georgia are going to be overwhelmed just like Phoebe Putney."

    https://www.ajc.com/news/virus-spre...med-georgia-hospitals/FGV78fXuj34x0S5nNT03hI/

    Already, intensive care units are full in hard-hit communities such as Cobb County and Albany, officials said Wednesday. The situation is so dire in Albany that Phoebe Putney Memorial Hospital is scrambling to add as many as 60 critical-care beds in a satellite facility.


    Here's why! It's All about MONEY!

    https://www.albanyherald.com/news/h...cle_c3bae44c-5188-5da1-9c1b-1faa780d0dca.html


    Georgia has seen three rural hospitals close this year: Charlton Memorial Hospital in Folkston; Stewart-Webster Hospital in Richland; and Calhoun Memorial in Arlington.

    https://www.albanyherald.com/news/l...cle_152ff02c-1418-562d-b2dc-ac0e46bfebcd.html




    https://www.mdjonline.com/news/legi...cle_dec5c0c0-3c53-11e9-a6ac-8b44e222ab2d.html

    Rob Schreiner, a physician and executive vice president at Marietta-based WellStar, said the CON program protects nonprofit health systems like WellStar “from getting the for-profits to take our commercially insured patients, leaving us with the government-insured or noninsured (patients).”

    “In many cases, competing hospitals use this (CON) process to object to a new service in the community — whether it be an open-heart surgery unit, maternity ward or new imaging equipment, for example,” Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan wrote in an op-ed this week. “If patients truly are the focus of everything we do in healthcare, then Georgia lawmakers need to allow providers to create more healthcare options.”



    Follow the money. The next time you notice a news story about a boring old squabble between hospitals trying to keep the number of beds low and PROFITS HIGH, remember the weeks you spent trapped at home so we wouldnt overload the hosptals!
     
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  2. KENNEDY63

    KENNEDY63 Elite Refuge Member

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    What's the fix?
     
  3. widgeon

    widgeon Elite Refuge Member

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    There ain't an easy one, that's for sure. But this current answer doesn't seem all that easy either.
     
  4. AvianQuest

    AvianQuest Elite Refuge Member

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    Folks are tracing the shortage of emergency supplies back to the virus pandemic back to 2009 when the stockpile was used up in fighting the H1N1 virus. Afterwards, Obama, under pressure from his own party, redirected funds meant to replenish the stockpile and spent it on green energy programs and food stamps.

    Unfortunately many states didn't replace their own stockpiles either. For example New York State had budgeted funds for thousands of ventilators but instead spent the money on a solar project. It's also a tax base issue in that 500,000 people a year move out of New York City and another 700,000 a year leave California. The governments offset the tax shortfalls by raising taxes on those who stay which just results in more people fleeing. This just adds to the situation where politicians spend tax money on things to make them popular while hoping for the best and figuring they will be retired before the chickens return to their roosts bringing bird flu with them.

    So will Trump be able to replenish the national stockpile for the next president?
     
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  5. FriedPotatoes

    FriedPotatoes Senior Refuge Member

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    So wait, a for-profit healthcare industry in which profits are more important than actual people may not be the best situation? But I thought looking out for the common good was socialist and atheist?
     
  6. widgeon

    widgeon Elite Refuge Member

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    In your world maybe.

    Allowing competition is a good thing. Not becoming a bunch of bat eatin commies.
     
  7. rhpierce

    rhpierce Elite Refuge Member

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    Interesting...source on this?
     
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  8. AvianQuest

    AvianQuest Elite Refuge Member

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    Just from paying attention and I don't forget anything.

    By the way 5,000 N95 masks were just found squirreled away in a store room in the National Cathedral.
     
  9. buck_master_2001

    buck_master_2001 Elite Refuge Member

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    Can’t tell these old timers nothing.
     
  10. Avian Thunder II

    Avian Thunder II Elite Refuge Member

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    Notice, I'm not blaming anyone ... unlike your apparent anger over money-grubbing.

    Governor's were told essentially to handle the crisis with backup from the feds.

    Now, you folks want to lament the demise of rural hospitals and some located in more urban areas. West Virginia has a big problem in terms of more recent hospital closures. What's that old adage about (musical instrument) while Rome burns (figuratively -US - and literally - Italy).
     
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