On the Cabelas sale I was complaining about for nothing being actually available you can actually order the m3000 online for $350 in MOB. I'm tempted for just a backup/loaner/beater at about the price of an 870 Express. Who knows, maybe I'd love it. Not sure where you'd pick up a new semi auto in camo for less than that, and the Stoegers do seem to have their fans. What I really need is someone to slap me and say "of course you need to buy that for that price dummy" or alternatively "you moron it's a Stoeger, you shouldn't spend $20 on that POS" Get my drift?