Manitoba is Going to Lottery System for Americans in 2023?

[Feathers]

Every applicant will get a license. For now anyway. There is no quota. Seems like there are several posters on here that missed that part in the final change.

 

[Old Critter]

Feathers: I have read that too for 2023. Seven-day license.

 

[Meyer8043]

It's good now, but it's not what it was 20 years ago.

I've been chasing ducks for about 20 years so I may have missed out on the best times.... if it was as good as everyone talks they must have just flew into the bed of your pickup and killed themselves.
All kidding aside I can't imagine hunting being better then it is now. I feel so fortunate to see the amount of birds I see and kill. I think people that say oh it was better back then are the same people who sit in the same spot everyday thinking they are going to kill em. Gotta change with the times.

 

[Old Critter]

I’ve been hunting Canada’s prairie provinces regularly for more than forty years. In the 80’s and 90’s access to private land was easier than it is today and there was far less competition. The hunting was terrific.

The hunting today can still be excellent. You will see and prolly shoot more ducks and geese than you will anywhere in the States. But if you are a freelancer you will work harder than before and perhaps not get on an X field as frequently as you did in the past.

 

[Mean Gene]

1) Will bitch!ng about the new rules here change them? No
2) If I b!tch about if for another 50 pages will it change anything? No
3) If I want to go hunt up there will I have to comply with the new rules? Yes
4) If I don't want to comply with the new rules, can I just do whatever I want? No

Seems simple to me, but maybe I just missed something.

 

[GooseChaser1]

Good Afternoon All,

We seem to forget that we are guest in the great North Country and what ever are the rules set by the provinces we need to abide by them. If you feel that they are two restrictive then you need to move on to another area of your choosing. I and my group of friend have been going to Saskatchewan since 1998 and have established friendships over the years. Getting permission is the same as it has been since 1998, knock on the door or call and see if you can hunt. Several times over the years there might have been a mix of others hunting the same field due to the wife or lease owner giving permission but we have always been able to work it out and resolve any conflict.

Several local Outfitters in the area we hunt, but our feeling are that they are making a living and providing a service. We make sure that when we are out scouting and come across the Guides that are also looking at the same fields, we make the decision to say hello and move on. More than once, they have helped us locate another field to hunt.

The major problem for both residents and non-residents are that large corporations moving in and buying up large sections of land/farms (large amount of cash offered) and not allowing hunting. We have run into this last year in checking the RM maps, several company's have purchased large sections of land. One company I contacted the owners lived in South Africa and Saskatchewan and when I reached them, they indicated that they or there share holders do not allow hunting. I believe that this will be more of a problem than trying to get your lottery license to hunt as a non-resident and not finding land to hunt on.

Dennis S.
Rio Rancho, NM

PS: We are still heading North again next season and will again enjoy the people, friendship's and chasing the birds.

 

[Northhunter]

I've been chasing ducks for about 20 years so I may have missed out on the best times.... if it was as good as everyone talks they must have just flew into the bed of your pickup and killed themselves.
All kidding aside I can't imagine hunting being better then it is now. I feel so fortunate to see the amount of birds I see and kill. I think people that say oh it was better back then are the same people who sit in the same spot everyday thinking they are going to kill em. Gotta change with the times.

I replied to this this morning and just decided not to hit "post reply" and deleted the whole thing (and not because I disagree). But Old Critter touched on what I was going to say.

It's not necessarily the hunting that has changed. It's the pressure. Even where I hunt (public water).

 

[Lmbkiller]

For those of you who seem to have trouble clicking on a highlighted link provided for them here you are...if you will actually take the time to read it? Note the area I bolded out. You come here and do the very thing you bitch and whine about in your own neck of the woods then stand around scratching your head and spewing out ******** about changes being made to deter your very own actions. Typical of the self entitlement crowd. I hope SK and AB follow suit. Ont, QC and the maritimes are a lost cause long ago as they allow leasing lands.

A Guide to Changes in Migratory Game Bird Hunting Regulations for Foreign Residents in Manitoba – 2023
Introduction
On November 3, 2022, Manitoba implemented a new provincial Waterfowl Modernization Strategy. The new regulations will impact the fall 2023 waterfowl hunting season for foreign resident1 hunters who intend to hunt waterfowl in Manitoba either on their own as freelance hunters, or if they choose to hunt with an outfitter.
This document communicates the reasons for the changes, describes Manitoba’s vision to protect the waterfowl hunting culture that exists in this Province and explains how foreign residents can continue to enjoy hunting in Manitoba.
Why Have Changes Been Implemented?
In recent decades, access to quality freelance waterfowl hunting opportunity on private and public land throughout North America has diminished. Competition for access to waterfowl hunting in North America has increased over time, resulting in the leasing and purchase of privately-owned quality hunting land by hunters for their personal use, or by commercial outfitters to guarantee quality hunting for their clients. Understandably, foreign resident hunters from the U.S. come to Canada where quality waterfowl hunting on private land is more freely accessible and public lands are less crowded.
In recent years, resident hunters and outfitters in Manitoba have reported an intensification of hunting activities by foreign resident hunters in Manitoba who are increasingly staying longer and controlling access to waterfowl hunting lands. Freelance foreign resident hunters bring important economic benefits to the province. Likewise, licensed outfitting provides important economic activity in Manitoba, and also provides hunting opportunity for individuals who don’t have the ability or opportunity to freelance hunt, or simply choose not to.
Increased competition for access to hunting areas has adversely affected the quality of waterfowl hunting experience in Manitoba by encouraging the practices of payments for exclusive access, through the establishment of permanent, private hunting camps, as well as through illegal activity and conflict over private and public hunting areas.
In response to these trends, Manitoba resident hunter and outfitter organizations requested policy changes to ensure that private and public lands would remain accessible to resident hunters, as well as to foreign resident hunters whether they are hunting on their own or through outfitters. It is evident that ensuring access to hunting areas is needed to sustain resident hunters and to secure the future of quality waterfowl
1 Foreign Resident: not a resident of Manitoba, Canada or a Canada citizen.

hunting in Manitoba for all stakeholders now and far into the future.
Manitoba’s Waterfowl Hunting Culture
Manitoba enjoys a rich waterfowl hunting culture. Indigenous hunters have pursued waterfowl here from time immemorial. Today, hunting by Indigenous peoples is legally protected in Canada under Section 35 of our Constitution, which recognizes and affirms Treaty and Aboriginal rights. In Manitoba, Indigenous peoples include First Nations, Métis and Inuit. Indigenous peoples practicing rights-based harvesting do not require a licence to hunt animals or migratory birds for food, social, or ceremonial purposes. Their numbers are not reflected in the reported numbers of licensed resident waterfowl hunters.
Hunting in Manitoba and Canada is a privilege and not a right for hunters who are not Indigenous. Licensed (non-Indigenous) resident hunters also place a high value on hunting and waterfowl as a food source. Foreign resident access to hunting privileges in Manitoba are directly connected to the ongoing sustainability of Manitoba’s waterfowl hunting opportunities.
Waterfowling is incredibly important to the future of Manitoba’s overall hunting heritage in that waterfowl hunting is often the introduction to hunting for many resident youth and other first time hunters, and a gateway to other types of hunting experiences.
The resulting regulatory changes are intended to secure access to quality hunting opportunities in Manitoba for all waterfowl hunters. These changes will reduce illegal outfitting, establish a cap on licensed outfitting operations and legacy hunting camps, with the goal of creating a higher quality experience for resident waterfowl hunters, outfitted clients, and visiting foreign resident freelance hunters in Manitoba.
Regulatory Change for Fall 2023 Waterfowl and Upland Game Bird Hunting Season for Foreign Residents
Foreign residents now have the opportunity to access the following licences:
o Foreign Resident Upland Game Bird Licence: required to hunt upland birds and can be purchased online and is subject to the same regulatory framework as resident hunters.
o Foreign Resident Migratory Game Bird Licence: required to hunt migratory birds and is a seven-day licence, which can be accessed either by entering a draw process or booking with a licenced outfitter.

o Foreign Resident Legacy Migratory Game Bird Licence: a grandfathered opportunity for qualifying foreign resident land owners or lessees of Crown land.
As part of the initial phase-in strategy for fall of 2023, Manitoba is ensuring that all applicants for the draw will receive a seven-day Foreign Resident Migratory Game Bird Licence. In subsequent years the allocations for each licence type will be determined based on licence sales, hunter questionnaire data from all user groups and stakeholder input. The combination of the seven-day licence and associated draw for freelance foreign resident hunters is intended to discourage visiting hunters from creating lasting systems of control that inhibit other hunters.
Manitoba’s modernized waterfowl hunting system is one of the first plans in North America to develop a clear management strategy for waterfowl outfitting. Licensed outfitting provides economic benefit to Manitoba as well as access for hunters not able to pursue waterfowl on their own. However, outfitting requires the occupation of significant areas of hunting land to provide quality hunting for clients. The regulatory changes require that licence allocations of Foreign Resident Migratory Game Bird Licences for individual outfitters will be subject to an overall cap at average activity levels prior to Covid-19 restrictions. Outfitted clients are subject to the same seven-day term and can only purchase one licence per year. The operating areas for outfitters will not be expanded beyond their operational footprint from the pre-Covid-19 period.
The regulatory vision is to position Manitoba as a mecca for waterfowl hunting - a high quality experience that will be highly sought after compared to other jurisdictions where unlimited commercialization becomes unsustainable for all involved: residents, foreign resident freelancers and licensed outfitters.
Special grandfathered provisions were established to create the Foreign Resident Legacy Migratory Game Bird Licence. This licence is available to foreign residents who were, prior to September 1, 2022 (and remain currently): registered property owners in Manitoba, or shareholders in a corporation owning registered property in Manitoba, or a Crown land lessee. Eligible land interest holders must also have hunted waterfowl within the previous five years (2018-2022). Foreign residents who meet the aforementioned criteria may qualify for a Foreign Resident Legacy Migratory Game Bird Licence and can find out more at http://www.gov.mb.ca/nrnd/fish-wildlife/wildlife/mbwaterfowl.html. These provisions were made to recognize the capital investment made by these individuals. This opportunity is grandfathered, so that no new private hunting operations begin in Manitoba going forward.
The spring conservation Canada, snow, and Ross’s goose seasons are not subject to the new regulations pertaining to foreign residents. A separate Spring Conservation Goose Licence can be obtained free of charge from Manitoba’s elicensing program www.manitobaelicensing.ca

General Information about the Foreign Resident Migratory Game Bird Licence Draw
The Manitoba Foreign Resident Migratory Game Bird Draw program is a priority-based system that will award a single seven (7) consecutive day licence to all successful applicants. It will be up to the individual successful applicant (or group of applicants) to accept, purchase and select the seven (7) consecutive days the licence will be valid.
Full details of the Foreign Resident Migratory Game Bird Draw application guideline with information on how to apply is available at www.gov.mb.ca/nrnd/fish- wildlife/wildlife/mbwaterfowl.html.
Online draw applications will be accepted June 15 – July 15 (11:59 pm), only on Manitoba’s elicensing platform.
Applications must be registered online at www.manitobaelicensing.ca by this date and time. Notification of draw results will be on July 31.
All successful applicants will be charged $218.25 for their licence.
To apply for the draw, you will need to create a customer profile online at www.manitobaelicensing.ca. If you have purchased any type of hunting or fishing licence since 2020, you will have a profile already created in the elicensing program, do not create another profile.
Draw licences are only available through the draw process once a year. There will be no draw licences available after the draw is completed. The only option to obtain a licence after the draw will be through a licensed Manitoba waterfowl outfitter with an allocation of licences.
Up to six (6) applicants may be linked (submitted) together on one (1) Foreign Resident Migratory Game Bird draw application. The first applicant is designated as the group leader and is the only person who can edit the application until the draw deadline.
If you have any questions about the application procedures, contact the elicensing Help Desk at 1-877-880-1203. For further information visit: http://www.gov.mb.ca/nrnd/fish- wildlife/wildlife/mbwaterfowl.html.

The way it was written before is what everyone was complaining about. If u can’t understand the contentions with the original draft from us “whiners” well, u don’t understand what u don’t understand. I’m glad Manitoba made the necessary tweaks and made it better for all to enjoy. The way it’s written now I have no problems with. They addressed many of the issues me and others had with it. Which makes it even more entertaining that we were “whining” about it and then it gets changed to include some ideas the “whiners” presented on here

 

[grande long]

I whine about something daily usually the weather.

 

[JFG]

Just read about this new regulation which recently passed by the Province. I certainly can see how it’s going to cause issues with hunters planning trips in upcoming seasons. Guess Saskatchewan will be next. Sure have enjoyed my hunts there….

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/american-duck-hunters-new-regulations-1.6783285