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So this would solve a large majority of problems if the state follows suite and goes along with something similar. If not you are going to be flooded with even OOSers from the east coast.
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New set of rules for foreign duck hunters in Manitoba 'changes everything,' says American



Province says limits needed due to 'intensity and duration of … hunting pressure' from foreign hunters

Rachel Ferstl - CBC News

Posted: March 20, 2023
Doug Janes is a duck hunter from Wisconsin. He questions Manitoba's new waterfowl regulations, which he says will make it more difficult for American hunters to plan trips to the province. (Submitted by Doug Janes)
Manitoba has introduced new rules to lower the number of Americans hunting ducks and other waterfowl in the province.
Foreign hunters — which, in Manitoba, primarily means Americans — are now only allowed to hunt for a maximum of seven consecutive days under the new regulations for waterfowl hunters, which at least one American hunter says have been quietly rolled out.
In previous years, a foreign resident game bird licence allowed the purchaser to hunt under the same rules as Manitoban hunters.
Foreign duck hunters can buy a licence through a licensed Manitoba outfitter, or can apply to be drawn through a lottery system. Those who are owners or tenants of land in the province are eligible for a grandfather licence.
This year, all foreign hunters who apply for a licence will get one. But in the coming years, the province says it will only accept a certain number of the foreign hunters who apply in the draw.
The province recently sent a guide outlining the changes to licence holders, saying that foreign hunters are staying in the province longer and controlling access to hunting land.
Foreign hunters account for 50% of harvest: province
In the guide, the province notes that waterfowl hunting pressure is concentrated in southwestern Manitoba, which is part of what's known as the Prairie Pothole region — a vast area of the Great Plains that is filled with wetlands known as prairie potholes.
In Manitoba, though, that's a relatively small area of high-quality hunting territory that "concentrates hunting pressure and competition for access between user groups within Manitoba," the province says.
OUT IN THE OPEN American says he has right to hunt in CanadaAmendments to controversial gun bill may scare away Americans, outfitters say
The "intensity and duration of … hunting pressure" from foreign hunters "has significantly increased their share of Manitoba waterfowl harvest," the province claims, resulting in roughly 3,500 foreign hunters each year accounting for 50 per cent of the waterfowl harvest, while about 10,000 Manitoba hunters account for the other half.
This increased competition from foreign hunters has "adversely affected the quality of [the] waterfowl hunting experience in Manitoba" by encouraging payments for exclusive access and sparking conflict over private and public hunting areas, the province's guide says.
With the new rules, the province hopes to reduce illegal outfitting, establish a limit on licensed outfitting operations and legacy hunting camps, and ensure land is available to Manitoban hunters.
Potential effects 'heartbreaking': U.S. hunter
Doug Janes, a hunter from Wisconsin who has been going on duck hunting trips to The Pas in northern Manitoba for more than 30 years, said the changes caught him off guard.
"For this thing to go provincewide and go in the darkness of night instantly, it just kind of shocks me," said Janes, who added hunting in Manitoba is a big part of his life.
"I'm just absolutely in love with the country. I love the Great Plains, and I love the great marshlands of northern Manitoba, the thought of losing that to a lottery … not having some of my favourite people be able to join me on it … it's heartbreaking. It really is."
Janes said duck hunting in Manitoba is a major part of his life. (Submitted by Doug Janes)
Janes said he didn't voice his concerns during online consultation by the province on the new regulations because he never heard about it.
He questions the need for the new rules, saying he hardly ever sees any other hunters on his trips.
"Very rarely do I have an interaction with another hunter, much less a local hunter," Janes said.
He's also never witnessed any of the hunter behaviours identified as motivating the changes, and wishes the province would consider a regional approach to the new rules.
Janes added that seven days is a limited window to hunt, and it's difficult to plan hunting trips when the draw for licences doesn't happen until June each year.
"It changes everything," Janes said. "I start in the wintertime, planning for next fall and not knowing whether or not I'll have a licence or who may be able to join me."
But John Devney from Delta Waterfowl, a non-profit operating in the U.S. and Canada, said the regulations will serve both Manitoban hunters and U.S. hunters well in the long run.
"The regulation that has been released sort of nicely manages all the stakeholders," he said. "The challenge in so many places around waterfowl hunting is just access and opportunity."
Devney, chief policy officer at the organization and based in North Dakota, said many Americans are grateful for the opportunity to hunt in Manitoba.
"Manitoba feels a lot different than a lot of places in the United States, where access and opportunity is seemingly boundless in comparison to the guy that grew up in Arkansas or California," he said.
No changes have been made that affect Manitoba hunters. Applications for this season's draw start June 15 and end July 15 on the province's e-licensing platform.
 

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So are the licenses valid for 7 days only, or the entite season?? Sounds like you can hunt 7 days, take a day off, then hunt another 7. Repeat.
 

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I hunted in Alberta was in 2007. The Non-resident Alien Waterfowl License I bought at that time was good for six (6) days back then.
As I recall, I could purchase as many of those during the season as I wanted.

Last week I talked to an outfitter in Manitoba about booking a hunt this coming season (in case CBWMA is still dry). He said the word he is getting is that he will receive a certain number of "tags" for his clients....and that he'll let me know what dates he has open after he gets his tags. He didn't indicate any problems in my being able to acquire the necessary licensing.
I am in the process of looking into getting my Manitoba licenses online, and have not run into any big issues.
 
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Come on tell us how this is wrong because federal money is involved. I bet they don't give a dam how Americans feel about this at least they have a conservation dept that cares about their residents over money. KANSAS GROW A PAIR and do this as well I will not hold my breath though.
 

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So this would solve a large majority of problems if the state follows suite and goes along with something similar. If not you are going to be flooded with even OOSers from the east coast.
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New set of rules for foreign duck hunters in Manitoba 'changes everything,' says American



Province says limits needed due to 'intensity and duration of … hunting pressure' from foreign hunters

Rachel Ferstl - CBC News

Posted: March 20, 2023
Doug Janes is a duck hunter from Wisconsin. He questions Manitoba's new waterfowl regulations, which he says will make it more difficult for American hunters to plan trips to the province. (Submitted by Doug Janes)
Manitoba has introduced new rules to lower the number of Americans hunting ducks and other waterfowl in the province.
Foreign hunters — which, in Manitoba, primarily means Americans — are now only allowed to hunt for a maximum of seven consecutive days under the new regulations for waterfowl hunters, which at least one American hunter says have been quietly rolled out.
In previous years, a foreign resident game bird licence allowed the purchaser to hunt under the same rules as Manitoban hunters.
Foreign duck hunters can buy a licence through a licensed Manitoba outfitter, or can apply to be drawn through a lottery system. Those who are owners or tenants of land in the province are eligible for a grandfather licence.
This year, all foreign hunters who apply for a licence will get one. But in the coming years, the province says it will only accept a certain number of the foreign hunters who apply in the draw.
The province recently sent a guide outlining the changes to licence holders, saying that foreign hunters are staying in the province longer and controlling access to hunting land.
Foreign hunters account for 50% of harvest: province
In the guide, the province notes that waterfowl hunting pressure is concentrated in southwestern Manitoba, which is part of what's known as the Prairie Pothole region — a vast area of the Great Plains that is filled with wetlands known as prairie potholes.
In Manitoba, though, that's a relatively small area of high-quality hunting territory that "concentrates hunting pressure and competition for access between user groups within Manitoba," the province says.
OUT IN THE OPEN American says he has right to hunt in CanadaAmendments to controversial gun bill may scare away Americans, outfitters say
The "intensity and duration of … hunting pressure" from foreign hunters "has significantly increased their share of Manitoba waterfowl harvest," the province claims, resulting in roughly 3,500 foreign hunters each year accounting for 50 per cent of the waterfowl harvest, while about 10,000 Manitoba hunters account for the other half.
This increased competition from foreign hunters has "adversely affected the quality of [the] waterfowl hunting experience in Manitoba" by encouraging payments for exclusive access and sparking conflict over private and public hunting areas, the province's guide says.
With the new rules, the province hopes to reduce illegal outfitting, establish a limit on licensed outfitting operations and legacy hunting camps, and ensure land is available to Manitoban hunters.
Potential effects 'heartbreaking': U.S. hunter
Doug Janes, a hunter from Wisconsin who has been going on duck hunting trips to The Pas in northern Manitoba for more than 30 years, said the changes caught him off guard.
"For this thing to go provincewide and go in the darkness of night instantly, it just kind of shocks me," said Janes, who added hunting in Manitoba is a big part of his life.
"I'm just absolutely in love with the country. I love the Great Plains, and I love the great marshlands of northern Manitoba, the thought of losing that to a lottery … not having some of my favourite people be able to join me on it … it's heartbreaking. It really is."
Janes said duck hunting in Manitoba is a major part of his life. (Submitted by Doug Janes)
Janes said he didn't voice his concerns during online consultation by the province on the new regulations because he never heard about it.
He questions the need for the new rules, saying he hardly ever sees any other hunters on his trips.
"Very rarely do I have an interaction with another hunter, much less a local hunter," Janes said.
He's also never witnessed any of the hunter behaviours identified as motivating the changes, and wishes the province would consider regional approach to the new rules.
Janes added that seven days is a limited window to hunt, and it's difficult to plan hunting trips when the draw for licences doesn't happen until June each year.
"It changes everything," Janes said. "I start in the wintertime, planning for next fall and not knowing whether or not I'll have a licence or who may be able to join me."
But John Devney from Delta Waterfowl, a non-profit operating in the U.S. and Canada, said the regulations will serve both Manitoban hunters and U.S. hunters well in the long run.
"The regulation that has been released sort of nicely manages all the stakeholders," he said. "The challenge in so many places around waterfowl hunting is just access and opportunity."
Devney, chief policy officer at the organization and based in North Dakota, said many Americans are grateful for the opportunity to hunt in Manitoba.
"Manitoba feels a lot different than a lot of places in the United States, where access and opportunity is seemingly boundless in comparison to the guy that grew up in Arkansas or California," he said.
No changes have been made that affect Manitoba hunters. Applications for this season's draw start June 15 and end July 15 on the province's e-licensing platform.
We began rationing our wildlife resources decades ago with lottery-type drawings. Our primary problem in North America is too many people, but no politician will ever say that...
 

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We began rationing our wildlife resources decades ago with lottery-type drawings. Our primary problem in North America is too many people, but no politician will ever say that...
Yeah, no one wants to admit that. We either make more land (can’t) or start building upward, not outward.
 
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