Might need to go to bismuth....

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  1. Ravenanme

    Ravenanme Elite Refuge Member

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    OH yeah , these were shot with 1 1/8 oz of BB's inside the decoys , our spread was out to 35 yds for the farthest one !
    It was the landing hole in the middle that was the trap , shooting the outside birds first allowed us multiple kills each up !
     
  2. SkolMNDuckHunter

    SkolMNDuckHunter Senior Refuge Member

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  3. Dave in AZ

    Dave in AZ Senior Refuge Member

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    Thx.
    Cleaned 3 ducks last night, all bismuth 4s at 35 to 40 yds w full choke from invector plus, cynergy. Med ducks, shovelor... only 3 I saw all day :( Only found 2 to 4 pellets hit each. Head or neck killed each with just a single pellet through breast on one duck, lodged inside far skin. I had to shoot 2 of them twice, those were the 4 pellet ones.

    Penetration didn't seem to be issue, only found 2 pellets total. But density appeared to suck. 9/8oz 4 bismuth. Don't know how choke patterned, put the full and mod in there which was the tightest I had for the gun and was hoping for the best, used the full choke 1st shot each. Looks like I need to geet to a board with that load, it must have been really sparse at 35 to 40 yds...
     
  4. Squaller

    Squaller Elite Refuge Member

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    Whole birds or breasted? How do you get the pellets out of a whole bird when you do find them, without tearing up the bird? (Not trying to be a ****, but I pick out most birds).
     
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    Squaller Elite Refuge Member

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    Why not jump up to #4's?

    With the guns I have patterned, it would be unlikely for a teal to pass through an I.C. pattern of #4's at 35 yards (in which a teal looks a looong ways off)...

    After being surprised at how well #4's worked, I did try #6's... They seem to run out of energy at about 30 yards, and I had vastly more pellets in the birds I was eating (as compared to #4's). If finding so many holes in crippled birds (i.e. hitting birds hard and not killing them) was not enough to switch back to #4's, eating my first batch of ducks shot with #6's was.
     
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  6. Ravenanme

    Ravenanme Elite Refuge Member

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    That's interesting Squaller as , I've shot a few limits of Quail with steel 6's and only found (maybe) 4 pellet strikes to the bird !
    I personally like #5's better as birds flushing wild , say 35 yds or more , I still have a good success at getting them ! I do shoot tight chokes for
    open country shooting .
     
  7. Dr Swane

    Dr Swane Senior Refuge Member

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    When they get in tight (20 yards and under) 4’s rip them to piece, heads, and bodies. I am impressed with Kent Teal steel 5’s and a mod choke.
     
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    Squaller Elite Refuge Member

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    Well... I get that, but if you are shooting at ducks at such close ranges, why not open up the chokes a bit? Heck, the #5's will run out of steam before gaining the benefit of the tighter modified choke anyways (or so I would assume).
     
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  9. Drake91

    Drake91 Senior Refuge Member

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    I killed a mallard stone dead a touch over 30 yards a few weeks ago with 7/8oz. Of #5's I really like the #5's
     
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    I pretty much concur with Squaller. If birds are that close more often than not, a more open choke (cylinder bore) imo with 4’s would not concentrate near as many pellets as 5’s with a mod choke. Escaping birds (ducks) then can easily be taken up to 40 yards. I shoot that combo early season when birds are closer ...it’s money for me.
     
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