New to Reloading

Discussion in 'Shooting - Reloading Forum' started by RXHzfx, Apr 12, 2021.

  1. Jim Atlas

    Jim Atlas Senior Refuge Member

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    I have broken down factory shells before. But mostly to salvage the shot.
    There's a margin of error in every process, from scrambling eggs to rocket engine. I load ammo by hand, and hold myself to a fairly tight tolerance, but it's looser for certain loads. It's the same for factory ammo, it's just their margin is looser.
     
  2. Ravenanme

    Ravenanme Elite Refuge Member

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    Yep , What you're thinking you're getting , might not be so , that's why I say , I have the Best loads in the Marsh......I know !
     
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  3. Holesinthesky

    Holesinthesky Senior Refuge Member

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    Did not feel like starting a new thread for my questions ( and I haven’t seen it answered in others).
    I do not reload.
    I see guys at the range picking up hulls like silver dollars.
    My questions are…..
    Are all hulls the same when it comes to reloading?
    Ok to reload field (lead) in once fired steel shot hulls?
    Reload steel or bismuth in same hulls?

    I am just curious. Knowledge is King.
     
  4. Dr Swane

    Dr Swane Senior Refuge Member

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    Essentially any hull can be reloaded. They will all reload a bit differently. Some Hulls/manufacturers have interchangeable load data. The hull does not matter if it’s loaded with steel, lead, bismuth, etc; as long as components are within spec and not over pressure. There are better quality Hulls out there for most Reloaders, and some that will only be reloaded once, or a few times.
     
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  5. PaulinKansas

    PaulinKansas Elite Refuge Member

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    No. There are 2 styles. Just like there are 2 engines in most trucks (diesel and gas). There are straight wall hulls and tapered wall hulls. They take the appropriate type of wad, straight or tapered. If you interchange, they will still go bang, but they may not go bang with consistent velocity.

    This is the first hunting related post I've made in 2 months.
     
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  6. Joe Hunter

    Joe Hunter Senior Refuge Member

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    I've opened a few in my day and here are some pellet numbers from commonly used steel duck loads.

    The true in-shell pellet count listed is an average of five shells cut open and counted.

    Federal Speed-Shok 3" 1 1/4 oz #3 steel (186 pellets)
    Remington Sportsman 3" 1 1/4 oz #3 steel (193 pellets)
    Winchester Xpert 3" 1 1/4 oz #3 steel (195 pellets)

    Federal Speed-Shok 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (154 pellets)
    Federal Ultra-Shok 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (147 pellets)
    Federal Black Cloud 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (144 pellets)
    Fiocchi Golden 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (156 pellets)
    Hevi-Metal 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 / #5 (164 pellets)
    Kent Fasteel 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (155 pellets)
    Kent Silver Steel 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (153 pellets)
    Remington Sportsman 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (152 pellets)
    Remington Nitro Steel 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (151 pellets)
    Winchester Xpert 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (146 pellets)
    Winchester Drylok 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (162 pellets)
    Winchester Elite Blind Side 3" 1 3/8 oz #2 steel (176 pellets)

    And, you do know that Sporting Arms and Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI) has voluntary industry standards which include:

    1) Pellet size variations allow for +/- one pellet size (+/- .010" dia.) of variation in “game” loads and +/- ½ pellet size (+/- .005" dia.) of variation in “target” loads,

    2) Load weight variations can range from +4% to -7% in game loads and +3% to -5% in target loads,

    3) Pellet counts per ounce can vary by +/- 10% for both game and target loads, and

    4) Load velocity can vary by +/- 90 fps for both game and target loads.

    Good luck!
     
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  7. Neighbor Guy

    Neighbor Guy Elite Refuge Member

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    @Holesinthesky

    start here:

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    There are a lot of manuals out there as well, but this one is considered the best place to start by many.
     
  8. Holesinthesky

    Holesinthesky Senior Refuge Member

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    Thank you.
    I am not looking to get into it right now.
    I was just curious. ( as mentioned….. I see guys scrambling to pick them up at the range like silver dollars). But am amazed at the amount of hulls floating on the lake, river, and around duck blinds.
    Which made me question ……. Was there a difference.

    one morning after a hunt. I just went around picking up hulls floating around a couple blinds.
    I decide right then and there to get a mojo stick. Next trip out, I picked up 2 x 33gallon kitchen bags of just hulls. Another 55 gallon bag of trash floating ( cups, cans, shell boxes, candy wrappers etc…).

    Really wish Our Game Dept. would hold a mandatory cleanup day.
     
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  9. Jim Atlas

    Jim Atlas Senior Refuge Member

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    It is a good book to start with, but as far as steel data goes, you'll quickly scoot past it. Its virtue is also its drawback: It's far from cutting edge even for its own day. Tried and true, but not state of the art.
     
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  10. Ravenanme

    Ravenanme Elite Refuge Member

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    I do like the Lyman's for reference on target loads but the RSI is leaps and bounds better for Steel Shot loading , along with Bismuth recipes !
    I would give Holeinthesky a good hand-shake for cleaning up the litter but at our club if you didn't pickup your hulls , you would be asked to find
    somewhere else to hunt ! I did go around to each blind after shoot days to check for trash , I'm one to take seriously !
     

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