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[Idahotim]

One of the big problems I've seen is big cities up and down each coast line dont want to acknowledge that they have unlimited resources of water. They want cheap water. They have desalination plants ready to go but they consider it too expensive to operate. I say leave the Dams in place for ruel districts and farms and wells for homes and make all the cities the live on coastal areas on each coast east west and south including the great lakes region get water out of the oceans. CA can afford it, they make the big bucks and all.

 

[bill cooksey]

Here in idaho people want to breach the dams for fish , not realizing that they create power that is more sustainable than their wind power,and there solar power, but the fishing guides and the Indians want them removed. Personally I feel that if the Indians remove all the guil nets that so thick all across the Columbia River you could walk across you would see more fish, I also believe that it's not our job to provide a living for guides at the expense of taxpayers for higher energy costs to tare down dams. Not to get into just off the coasts of the US 200 mile boundary that you have China, Japan and who ever else over fishing international waters. Dams are not only a source of renewable energy but put in for flood control,and comrece for commercial supplies, the greater good comes from dams versus not.

It’s my understanding the four dams there which they wish to breach provide no flood control, negligible water storage and generation so minimal it is laughable, a drop in the bucket and already slated to be replaced even if the dams remain. They epitomize government spending, mismanagement and waste at it’s best.

 

[Clark]

I'm not worried and the sky isn't falling, but it certainly is interesting to watch. We'll survive. We always do.

Said the dinosaurs.

 

[bill cooksey]

Here’s a podcast from this week about the dams and the salmon. Being from TVA country, I had questions about the dams and their usefulness.


Oh, and the money generated by that fishery is a hell of a lot bigger than helping a few guides and the Indians.

 

[sdkidaho]

Said the dinosaurs.

Dude... I'm not that old...

 

[BigSkyDuk]

It’s my understanding the four dams there which they wish to breach provide no flood control, negligible water storage and generation so minimal it is laughable, a drop in the bucket and already slated to be replaced even if the dams remain. They epitomize government spending, mismanagement and waste at it’s best.

In other words, they epitomize the Biden approach to infrastructure.

Your understanding is wrong. The four lower Snake River dams impound a total capacity of over 1.6 million acre-feet of water and have installed generation capacity of 3,155 megawatts. By themselves they can generate enough power for King County. On a bigger scale, the Columbia Basin project--which includes the dams in question--helped turn a desert into some of the most productive crop land in the world.

 

[bill cooksey]

Your understanding is wrong. The four lower Snake River dams impound a total capacity of over 1.6 million acre-feet of water and have installed generation capacity of 3,155 megawatts. By themselves they can generate enough power for King County. On a bigger scale, the Columbia Basin project--which includes the dams in question--helped turn a desert into some of the most productive crop land in the world.

Interesting. So the experts in the field I’ve heard from are liars? Who handles oversight of the dams in question?

 

[Idahotim]

It’s my understanding the four dams there which they wish to breach provide no flood control, negligible water storage and generation so minimal it is laughable, a drop in the bucket and already slated to be replaced even if the dams remain. They epitomize government spending, mismanagement and waste at it’s best.

In other words, they epitomize the Biden approach to infrastructure.

Some of that is correct. They are old, but they still produce lots of power,at least two of them do the other two yes should of been replaced long ago but by having the dams in place they hold just enough water back to allow movement of commerce to go down river by barge with wheat,timber,paper products etc. Take out the dams and you will see higher energy costs,business close because of higher transportation costs of fuel to truck,loss of jobs because of the business closing, the list goes on. I agree with you on the waste of government spending, and miss management as we all see it, but remove the Dams is not the answer. The government don't tell you everything. They don't tell you that to start a wind turbine that it takes a generator that runs off diesel to start it up. They don't tell you that to make a solar panel it takes lots and lots of machines to excavate the earth running off diesel. It kills me all the libs think that it just magical appears. Dams and necular energy are the most sustainable power we have that is echo friendly. And before somebody says what about a necular wast or spill. Necular energy has become so much more advanced sense the 60s here in the US . Small necular energy plants that power 50,000 homes is where its at verses 3 mile island of the 70s.

 

[BigSkyDuk]

Interesting. So the experts in the field I’ve heard from are liars? Who handles oversight of the dams in question?

I don't know who you've heard from so I'm not going to call them liars. Perhaps they have an agenda. These are all Army Corps of Engineers dams under the Bonneville Power Administration.

What replaces 3,200MW of renewable, green electrical generating capacity? Not wind, not solar...

 

[bill cooksey]

Some of that is correct. They are old, but they still produce lots of power,at least two of them do the other two yes should of been replaced long ago but by having the dams in place they hold just enough water back to allow movement of commerce to go down river by barge with wheat,timber,paper products etc. Take out the dams and you will see higher energy costs,business close because of higher transportation costs of fuel to truck,loss of jobs because of the business closing, the list goes on. I agree with you on the waste of government spending, and miss management as we all see it, but remove the Dams is not the answer. The government don't tell you everything. They don't tell you that to start a wind turbine that it takes a generator that runs off diesel to start it up. They don't tell you that to make a solar panel it takes lots and lots of machines to excavate the earth running off diesel. It kills me all the libs think that it just magical appears. Dams and necular energy are the most sustainable power we have that is echo friendly. And before somebody says what about a necular wast or spill. Necular energy has become so much more advanced sense the 60s here in the US . Small necular energy plants that power 50,000 homes is where its at verses 3 mile island of the 70s.

Is it true barge traffic is down over 80%?