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I know of a NWR where that’s not the case

That doesn’t surprise me but from the regulation,it means someone either ok’d it or has chosen to ignore it……..adds up to the same thing.
 

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That doesn’t surprise me but from the regulation,it means someone either ok’d it or has chosen to ignore it……..adds up to the same thing.

drones just aren’t mentioned in that refuge’s regs at all: doesn’t condone and doesn’t proscribe.
 

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drones just aren’t mentioned in that refuge’s regs at all: doesn’t condone and doesn’t proscribe.

The US Park Service and the FWS have a drone policy that is supposed to apply to ALL of their properties.........If flying drones is a problem, then I sure would ask the refuge manager why they are allowing it...........just sayin
 

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The US Park Service and the FWS have a drone policy that is supposed to apply to ALL of their properties.........If flying drones is a problem, then I sure would ask the refuge manager why they are allowing it...........just sayin

where is that policy?
 

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Previous link cited FWS sections applicable
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-50/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-27

See27.34 AIRCRAFT

See 27.51 a

https://www.nps.gov/policy/PolMemos/PM_14-05.htm

Third Party sources
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/50/26.31

https://dronerush.com/no-drone-zone-no-fly-zones-17070/

https://www.aneclecticmind.com/2012/12/20/the-rules-about-flying-over-wilderness-areas/

Drone operation would require a permit from the refuge manager as provided in the original 2nd paragraph

One of our club members launched a drone and flew it over the neighboring WMA. Game warden saw it and followed it back to the club. Said that the drone pilot should be aware that he needed a state permit(free) to fly it over MDC areas. GW said it could be considered game harassment since duck season was in effect.He also pointed out that it was not a “line of sight” situation as his understanding of fed regs.

GW left without issuing a ticket.

As always…….your mileage may vary
 

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Previous link cited FWS sections applicable
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-50/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-27

See27.34 AIRCRAFT

See 27.51 a

https://www.nps.gov/policy/PolMemos/PM_14-05.htm

Third Party sources
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/50/26.31

https://dronerush.com/no-drone-zone-no-fly-zones-17070/

https://www.aneclecticmind.com/2012/12/20/the-rules-about-flying-over-wilderness-areas/

Drone operation would require a permit from the refuge manager as provided in the original 2nd paragraph

One of our club members launched a drone and flew it over the neighboring WMA. Game warden saw it and followed it back to the club. Said that the drone pilot should be aware that he needed a state permit(free) to fly it over MDC areas. GW said it could be considered game harassment since duck season was in effect.He also pointed out that it was not a “line of sight” situation as his understanding of fed regs.

GW left without issuing a ticket.

As always…….your mileage may vary

the previous link was a blanket provision against disturbing wildlife, it doesn’t mention drones at all.

I saw the memo from 2014…that language has not been inserted in that specific refuge’s regulations anywhere that I can find, neither online nor in physical handouts of regs.
 

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I am not a lawyer and if you feel that operating a drone over a NWR is permissible, then go for it.
The OP pretty much described unauthorized use of aircraft as described in the CFR
I believe drones are considered aircraft but again I am not a lawyer

I suppose you could obtain a permit for the NWR, that would pretty well clear it up one way or the other,but I am not a lawyer.

link to NPS general info
https://www.nps.gov/articles/unmanned-aircraft-in-the-national-parks.htm
 
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