Patterning = OCD

Discussion in 'Shooting - Reloading Forum' started by Dr Duk, May 23, 2020 at 10:45 AM.

  1. Native NV Ducker

    Native NV Ducker Mod-Duck Hunters Forum, Classifieds, and 2 others Moderator

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    Some pattern drawings from the Seminar...
    Expert 35 yards I-C 142 Hits.JPG Blindside I-Mod 54 hits 40 yrds.JPG Kents 2s 40 yards Mod 122 hits.JPG
     
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    I never patterned my guns until about 8 or 10 years ago . And I’ll say this . Ive become a better wingshot since I started patterning my guns .

    POA/POI is especially important to know . The size of your pattern is important to know at various distances . Everyone thinks they need a super duper aftermarket choke , but Basketball size patterns at decoying ranges stink .

    I know my ranges better and what I can expect and can’t expect out of my shotguns at those ranges by the size and density of the pattern . It doesn’t give me all the answers .. obviously .. but it gives you a great base of knowledge .

    Ironic you posted this today because I just got back from patterning fifteen 10gauge loads .

    Morale of the story is I really enjoy target shooting with firearms and patterning is just another form of recreational target shooting with a splash of science .
     
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    I'd give the same response.

    What you don't know, you don't know.

    I have run into people who had a rifle boresighted and were happy with it as well.
     
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    My eyes have been opened. I guarantee you my success percentage will be up simply by knowing what shots to take or not take.
     
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    Did they become vegetarians?
     
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    The HTL pellets pattern the most consistent, shot-to-shot of any pellet ever used. You get consistent grouping of the pellets unlike steel patterns that are often all over the place when it comes to pellet dispersion, shot-to-shot.
     
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    They stopped by the grocery store a lot.
     
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    Yep But , there're more steel pellets in a given load so , when you manage to reload one that your gun / choke likes.......and you stay within its ability , steel shot
    is hard to beat if you can shoot straight ? I agree , heavier shot flies farther and hits harder but the #1 question is , the shooters ability to benefit from it ?
    Inside of 50 yds for Ducks Steel is cheaper and is very adequate ! Shooting Geese or using a small bore gun HTL trumps all !
     
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    There are some interesting facts the ballistians have figured out for us , in what type of shot material (should) work best for Waterfowling .
    Even though we pattern our loads , there's a percentage factor , our gun/choke will show us and with these patterns 65/70% is relatively , Dang Good !
    With so many fellas liking #4/0.130" shot in steel , let's take a look at it ballistic abilities ? At 43 yds it's traveling 643 fps with a muzzle velocity of 1550
    and at that yardage you would have 1.16" of penetration on Duck size birds . Even though steel being 7.8 g/cc , far less than Lead Shot at 11.2 g/cc , it
    still can be very effective . With a (1) oz load steel 4's having 190 pellets , whereas lead has 135 and if you shoot HTL 125 pellets . Now the point I'm
    making is , with all these additional pellets with steel shot , even though they're lighter , they're harder , more round and can be pushed much much
    faster , in most patterns birds are hit with more pellets in a given load and at decoy distances (40 yds) , they're at the maximum ability of 85% of
    the shooters using them ! :yes
     
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