Evidently you didn,t read the part where I said goose dummys,(dokens)didn,t help. Dog had retrieved them in training numerous times . Dog just had its mine made up that it didn,t like the additional weight of goose out of water. Same dog decided at about 2 that it no longer needed to obey hand/whistle signals on blinds. Had been thoroughly trained on them and normally ran them fine on water and land. Last dog I trained without an e collar . That was about 25 years ago. Other than that land goose quirk he was a great hunting dog and could literally dig out a crippled hidden duck in the deep marsh vegetation my blind was at.