Some New Legislation

carolina girl

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No, basically, CC you don't know or comprehend what Trevor is referring to, IMO. "If you already know who dislikes you, and you know those that are on your side, then just be concerned about the ones that haven’t formed an opinion yet. Have a good night all :)
I’m sensing an alliance somewhere here
 

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No, basically I’m worried about the one thing that actually matters.

Hunters, hunting families, and anti-hunters equate to about 30% of the population. Who makes the decisions on laws? The other 70%. Pull your head out of your *** and worry about how we portray hunting to the general public.

Lol. 30% of the population.

Hunter image is important, but it doesn't inform legislation.

Actually having a presence does that.
 

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It really doesn’t. Hunter numbers in regards to population mean nothing. How we portray ourselves to the non hunting population means everything. Quit worrying about increasing the population percentage of hunters and focus on portraying hunting in a positive light to the vast majority of voting public that has no opinion of hunting.
No, basically I’m worried about the one thing that actually matters.

Hunters, hunting families, and anti-hunters equate to about 30% of the population. Who makes the decisions on laws? The other 70%. Pull your head out of your *** and worry about how we portray hunting to the general public.
Not every problem has one simple answer. Yes portraying ourselves in a good light benefits hunting no argument whatsoever. Recruiting more hunters is also going to benefit more than just hunting and the things we care about. That is a long term trend that threatens the future. When you get older you start to worry about things beyond your lifetime.


Hunting families? Are you talking about situations like mine where I being the only hunter representing 20% of the household but have direct influence on the other 80% who do support but don’t hunt. Obviously, more hunters and more situations like that are good for hunting.
 

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No, basically I’m worried about the one thing that actually matters.

Hunters, hunting families, and anti-hunters equate to about 30% of the population. Who makes the decisions on laws? The other 70%. Pull your head out of your *** and worry about how we portray hunting to the general public.
i would venture to bet the a smaller percentage of wealthy folks who are connected to lobbyist or politicians influence most of the law on the books at the local, state and federal levels. does anyone think the horse council folks outnumber the hunters? I doubt it but the horse council folks have money and political influence to keep sunday hunting off the books. I have heard a number of stories over the years about how folks with deep pockets have been able to influence things in many ways and often times and it isn't a always a group of wealthy folks but just one who lines the right person or person's pockets to get what they want.
 

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Per capita means absolutely nothing to me, and hunting organizations tout overall numbers as down when they aren’t. End of subject. You are trying to spin numbers as badly as these organizations
I understand that per capita means nothing to you.

You said there are 1M more hunters today than two decades ago. My point is that in the context of waterfowl hunting that data point is irrelevant since the number of actual waterfowl hunters has remained stagnant (and actually has decreased significantly since its peak of >2M). The extra 1M hunters (if that is even correct) has no impact on waterfowl.
 

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I understand that per capita means nothing to you.

You said there are 1M more hunters today than two decades ago. My point is that in the context of waterfowl hunting that data point is irrelevant since the number of actual waterfowl hunters has remained stagnant (and actually has decreased significantly since its peak of >2M). The extra 1M hunters (if that is even correct) has no impact on waterfowl.
The context that I made my statement in never said anything about waterfowl hunters, just hunters in general. Hunter numbers are easily accessed on the USFWS website. Those numbers tell a different story than the “sky is falling” narrative that these conservation organizations are peddling to you in order to solicit more donations.
 

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Seems like you have an axe to grind with DU, Delta, other or all.
The five families of Kent county already wacked DU. As an associate of them it's his obligation to dislike any organization supporting Sunday hunting in MD.
 

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The five families of Kent county already wacked DU. As an associate of them it's his obligation to dislike any organization supporting Sunday hunting in MD.
Who am I an associate of? Y’all seem to think you know an awful lot about me when in reality you know absolutely zero.

I don’t know who you think the five families of Kent are either, but I’m sure I know one that you are thinking of and I despise everything about them.

Also, the Kent County DU committee can quit, but they can’t stop a DU Chapter from being in Kent. If as many people here are for Sunday hunting as you say, then I’m sure it will be picked up by others quickly and flourish :rolleyes:
 
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