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  1. The Other David

    The Other David Elite Refuge Member

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    I have no idea which way the winds are blowing in Virginia. There is a lot of bad anti-gun legislation coming down the pike, but don't know if any will be DOA.

    Here is a link to an NRA ILA article with some information. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20191230/virginia-first-weeks-of-january-are-critical

    Give 'em hell, guys!

    Another link: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20191223/defend-freedom-join-us-january-13th
    Gun bans, gun rationing, confiscation – it’s all on the table when the new bought and paid for majority of the Virginia General Assembly fast tracks their anti-gun agenda in January. They will gladly cast your right of self-defense aside as they try to check off every gun control scheme on Michael Bloomberg’s wish-list.
     
  2. markd

    markd Elite Refuge Member

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    Thanks David, the makeup of the Courts of Justice committee will probably change, but right now it is in favor of the good guys which tells me these bills won't have much teeth....maybe....maybe....the Republicans will negotiate with the Dems to lay aside some of the items in order to keep the Dems from getting pissed, reforming the committee and ramming all of the changes down our throats.

    I'll be honest, I am more concerned with the bills that take away a kids ability to go hunting alone than whether or not I am allowed to have a 30 round mag.
     
  3. Hellbender

    Hellbender Elite Refuge Member

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    What's this about, Mark. Age restriction?
     
  4. Montauker

    Montauker Elite Refuge Member

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    Here is the proposed language. On it's face I don't have an issue with this, but the word "recklessly" could be problematic.

    Basically says:

    Kids under 12 need to have adult supervision when hunting/shooting.
    It is illegal to "recklessly" give access to a firearm a kid under 18.

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    Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia: 11 1. That § 18.2-56.2 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows: 12 § 18.2-56.2. Allowing access to firearms by minors; penalty. 13 A. It shall be is unlawful for any person to recklessly leave a loaded, unsecured firearm in such a 14 manner as to endanger the life or limb of any child person under the age of fourteen 18. Any person 15 violating the provisions of this subsection shall be is guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor. 16 B. It shall be is unlawful for any person knowingly to authorize a child under the age of twelve 12 17 to use a firearm except when the child is under the supervision of an adult. Any person violating this 18 subsection shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. For purposes of this subsection, "adult" shall 19 mean means a parent, guardian, person standing in loco parentis to the child, or a person twenty-one 21 20 years of age or over older who has the permission of the parent, guardian, or person standing in loco 21 parentis to supervise the child in the use of a firearm.
     
  5. markd

    markd Elite Refuge Member

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    You don't have a problem with kids having to wait until they are 18 to hunt/shoot by themselves? I find that surprising.
     
  6. Montauker

    Montauker Elite Refuge Member

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    Sorry I was only looking at sub-section A. which is ambiguous.

    subsection B is a problem "B. It shall be is unlawful for any person knowingly to authorize a child under the age of twelve 12 17 to use a firearm except when the child is under the supervision of an adult."
     
  7. The Other David

    The Other David Elite Refuge Member

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    They will not be happy with one or the other. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. Fight them every step, give away nothing.
     
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  8. The Other David

    The Other David Elite Refuge Member

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    Disgraced Governor Ralph Northam and his anti-gun allies in the newly elected legislature have made it clear they are hell-bent on enacting gun control. They want to take your guns and they want taxpayers to fund it. They’ve seen the same research that has shown that gun control doesn’t work.

    Violent crime in Virginia fell for the second consecutive year, and the Commonwealth has the fourth lowest violent crime rate in the nation – also for the second consecutive year. Virginia had the 25th largest decrease in the violent crime rate from 2017 to 2018, while holding its spot as the fourth safest state. Virginia is outpacing the nation in reducing violent crime; the national rate decreased 3.6% while Virginia’s decreased 5%.

    It isn’t just overall violent crime that has decreased in Virginia. The murder rate fell by 17.3%, and firearms-related homicides specifically fell by 13.8%. For all of the Bloomberg talking points Northam and his minions regurgitate, there were eight homicides with a rifle of any type in Virginia in 2018. There were 3.75 times more homicides with knives (30 total) than rifles of any type and about twice as many fatal assaults with hands, fists, or feet (15 total) than rifles of any type.

    Virginia has 14 times the population of Baltimore but 1.4% of the homicides (391 in Virginia statewide compared to 309 in the city of Baltimore). Clearly firearms aren’t the problem, and gun control doesn’t work.

    The robbery rate fell 17.3% in Virginia from 2017 to 2018, and there was a decrease in both the number of robberies committed with a firearm (down 7.5%) as well as the percentage of all robberies that were committed with a firearm (down 2.4%).

    The rate of aggravated assaults increased 0.7%, and changes in the number of aggravated assaults committed with a firearm tracked with the number of overall aggravated assaults (increases of 8.1% and 7.9%, respectively). The share of aggravated assaults that involved a firearm was steady while the percentage of assaults involving a knife or other cutting weapon increased 1.4%. There was a larger increase in the number of aggravated assaults committed with knives (9.2%).

    So violent crime decreased. Homicides and robberies committed with a firearm both decreased while the percentage of aggravated assaults involving a firearm held steady and the overall aggravated assault rate only marginally increased. One might think, to listen to anti-gun legislators and activists, that Virginia is some kind of apocalyptic frontier with no law, no order, and danger around every corner. The data shows that Virginia is safe, both comparatively and categorically.

    None of this is to suggest that any level of crime is acceptable. There is still violent crime in Virginia, and there are still criminals to find, arrest, and prosecute. However, the best way to tackle the crime that does occur in Virginia is to focus on those who commit the crimes – not criminalizing gun ownership and lawfully owned firearms.

    Virginia would be best served by efforts focusing on criminals rather than bringing Bloomberg’s fantasy of criminalizing legal gun ownership to life. These efforts have been acknowledged by the Bloomberg-funded researchers at the Bloomberg School of Public Health and have had actual real-world results. Anti-gun researchers, found that so-called “universal background checks” don’t reduce crime just as we know that bans on commonly owned firearms don’t reduce crime.

    Focusing on actual criminals does work.

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/202...email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ila_alert
     
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  9. bird junkie

    bird junkie Elite Refuge Member

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    The whole thing is junk!
     
  10. ButchA

    ButchA Elite Refuge Member

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    Anyone going to be downtown Richmond on Monday? Schools are closed (MLK Day) so I won't be driving my school bus and will have the day off. I will be there!!! I can only say this... Countless friends of mine (i.e. Masonic Lodge Brothers) who are former LEO's, will be there for sure. Hell, even the retired Hanover County Sheriff is going to be there (who is also one of the Past Grand Masters of Masons in Virginia -- i.e. one of the "Grand Poo-bah's")...

    Check this out for anyone worried about the law and Governor {expletive}'s crazy state of emergency gun ban... HB20 makes his B.S. illegal!!!

    http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?121+sum+HB20
     

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