Too bad they dont still make the old redwing Irish setter nu buck water proofs. The ones with the urethane sole. I had prs of those that stayed waterproof for years and years of serious upland hunting. They would re sole them and you could wear the new sole off before the leather was worn out! The new waterproof leather boots are junk compared to them. They use to have displays of those redwings with the boot cut in half and glued to a glass case. They totally submerged the boot in water. You could see the inside of the boot thru the glass. They had one of those displays in Haneys shoe store in Omaha. That display was 15 years old and the boot still had not leaked! Too bad redwing is not the same quality of boot company now! I just wear danner and replace every 2 years now. The soles on the danners only last that long for me anyway.