What is in Hevi-Metal longer range loads?

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  1. Ravenanme

    Ravenanme Elite Refuge Member

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    With optimum Bismuth ( so far) being 6% tin alloy at 9.6 g/cc the 30% that's added to these steel shot loads .......is a joke !
    The true value of a denser payload is to have a greater amount of the payload still in a working pattern at the maximum distance of the pellets ability .
    Why shoot something that 70% of its pattern will fail way before what the shell was purchased for ? Plain old round steel shot , in the proper shot size ,
    will perform to your expectations without Drinking the Kool Aid of Marketing .
    If you need more Density in a pellet , it comes in the next price range , you can't substitute pattern performance without pattern density !
     
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  3. Drake91

    Drake91 Senior Refuge Member

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    I dont know how the that load could be good with soft bismuth in front of hard steel gotta smash the bismuth
     
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    duckbuster2 Senior Refuge Member

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    All this longer range is BS I have been shooting ducks for more then 50 years so I have used both lead and steel.I have never killed a duck with lead any further then I have with steel.
     
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  5. Billy Bob

    Billy Bob Elite Refuge Member

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    I said the same thing in another thread. It could turn half the bismuth to dust.

    I hate all of this promoting long range shooting and skybusting. Profit over ethics. Work the birds in and kill em with junk loads.
     
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  6. Drake91

    Drake91 Senior Refuge Member

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    I agree the market is promoting alot of the ignorance... why do u need to be shooting farther than 35-40 yards it's a scrattergun not a rifle
     
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  7. JP

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    Is this another case of EMI reaching into your wallet, from “long range”?
     
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    NW BIRDHUNTER Senior Refuge Member

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    Thanks, just kidding.
     
  9. Rob Mack

    Rob Mack Refuge Member

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    Here I s what I got from the original Hevi-Metal load of 1 3/4oz BB labeled shot size.

    89 steel BB shot.177-.180=532.7gn

    54 pieces of shot .140-.160=202.8 gn

    24.5 gn of flax seeds or some kind of seeds

    With the flax that’s 735.5 gn and still below 13/4oz of shot total

    Total pellet count 143
    72.4% steel
    27.6% other shot/ slag

    I did not include the weight of the seeds in the shot percentage calculations.

    ~34.7 gn of a ball type powder.

    wad must be their own design but looks ok to me.

    I have never shot this load or any like it. I pretty much stick to my steel hand loads and I have loaded some bismuth but that’s it. IMHO a good steel load that patterns the way you want it to will perform as well or better than this stuff. But that’s boring I guess....and boring doesn’t sell.

    cheers

    rob
     
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  10. JRS

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    That’s interesting- including the buffer weight in the final shot charge weight (label).:scratch
     

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