Where’s all the EV’s????

[JP]

IMO. the best solution is in figuring out how to harness the earth's magnetic force field for energy purposes. The main problem for the government is that since it's basically free (God given) how would they tax & regulate it? Wonder how close Tesla was to lining that out? As his work was confiscated by the government (at his passing), we'll probably never know.

 

[grahler]

IMO. the best solution is in figuring out how to harness the earth's magnetic force field for energy purposes. The main problem for the government is that since it's basically free (God given) how would they tax & regulate it? Wonder how close Tesla was to lining that out? As his work was confiscated by the government (at his passing), we'll probably never know.

Pretty interesting they cleaned out his place quickly when he passed.

 

[WidgeonmanGH]

What I take issue with is the political weaponization of climate change and it being used to subordinate constitutional principles. The free market has historically been a much more efficient conduit of innovation than any government.

TOTALLY Agree! The problem is our political class is completely corrupted either by Pollyanna left wing ecobabble or Rightwing profit at all cost good-ole boy "captialism".

Practically speaking we will not change either one and they operate as a difference without a distinction. So the only recourse is every man for himself in the context that "they" are establishing. It cannot last. It is complete BS. but complaining won't change it. So individuals need to do what they can because the "systems" in place will not be accomplishing anything other than what you currently see.

If we want a better grid we need nuclear big time.

Making it worse with nuclear with its completely ignored issues won't help anything. I think we should pass a law that says yes you can build a nuclear plant in your state or your community as long as 100 of the nuclear waste is dealt with in your state or community. Then I am just fine with CA building more nuclear plants even in your neighborhood under those conditions. (by the by, as you build nuclear try and ignore the government handouts and concessions as they build it- talk about subsidized.)

I will continue to live in WA.

 

[WidgeonmanGH]

Pretty interesting they cleaned out his place quickly when he passed.

Hahaha I think we will see solid state batteries before that. Remember how the government scientists have developed the carburetor that could get 100mpg?! More tinfoil needed.

 

[Tejas]

Most of our power production is made by spinning a turbine with steam. Even some of the big solar arrays like they have near Tonopah Nevada just spin a turbine. That being the case I would think the cleanest option workable now would be to use Hydrogen to spin the turbines. Hydrogen can be produced in a number of ways, but even if we used hydrogen that was not clean now, that could be corrected as technology improves.
The Toyota Mirai is already in production. Best thing about hydrogen cars is it seems they would be less dependent on rare earth minerals and huge amounts of lithium. They have more range, fast refueling. It can power an internal combustion engine, like we use now. Not nearly as much potential hazardous waste as compared to a decommissioned battery. From a practical standpoint I don’t understand the push to all electric, other than politics and people in high places fleecing the system.

 

[grahler]

Making it worse with nuclear with its completely ignored issues won't help anything

Powerful reasoning there.
The future ought to be generating electricity via nuclear then using said electricity to generate hydrogen.

Your alternative of enriching China notwithstanding.

You probably don’t realize how much nuclear there is right now.
Look.

Advantages and Challenges of Nuclear Energy

An overview of the main advantages of nuclear energy and the challenges currently facing the industry today.

www.energy.gov

Excerpt

CLEAN ENERGY SOURCE​

Nuclear is the largest source of clean power in the United States. It generates nearly 800 billion kilowatt hours of electricity each year and produces more than half of the nation’s emissions-free electricity. This avoids more than 470 million metric tons of carbon each year, which is the equivalent of removing 100 million cars off of the road.

For me, the answer is never to make China rich by adopting ev.

 

[Fogie]

There are veritable oceans of solar panels outside of town here, mostly in ancient and dry lake beds…thoroughly barren places that were good for nothing much except screaming around on dirt bikes, buggies etc. Literally as far as can be seen. They appear as water from angles, look like the lake is full.
But, I have seen some of those former lakes holding water before all of this buggery.
I’m not sure what contingency they have planned for flooding, I don’t see any control measures above these fields.
It is good that this is limited to junk land at least IMO. They could put 50,000 times the amount of this stuff out here without wrecking any land that has much use even to a jackrabbit, no doubt.
Anybody who has ever seen Lake Mead can tell just how huge that solar field is…

 

[grahler]

It doesn’t have to be like this.
China is behind the overregulation of everything here that makes cheap energy.
The govt regulations are what created every problem we have by design.
They submarined us and it started with Clinton.
By design we created an unfavorable environment for business.

 

[mo. black brant]

I researched and priced the solar power systems spring of 2022, the 30 dollar a month charge is an add on that we pay now, a user fee. Our power company does a good job of maintaining lines and rights of ways, we have been with out power very rarely the last 8 years. I was looking for a system to back us up incase the utter nonsense that went on in Texas a couple of winters ago happens again, you remember the blackouts caused primarily because of reliance on wind and solar. At that time we were texted to conserve our power, that and some summer days we get the same text, due to the air conditioning demand. So with this in mind, backup power, I also inquired about a battery backup. A couple of Tesla style batteries was suggested for about 40 grand and this would not run the air conditioner much and only power the house for a couple of days like cloudy weather and night. At 72 years old with a younger wife I elected to save money now and gamble on the government not loosing their minds and going total net zero.

 

[mo. black brant]

Fogie, all that land being covered up is not the whole point, it is the monumental waste of money that is then problem. China could give us the solar panels for free and it would still cost us, installation of them and the grid connections are still there and we would still have to build enough fossil fuel or nuclear to replace every bit of the power produced. Wind and solar do not produce 24/7, so why build up these systems far from the need and have all that cost when we could maximize our use of coal, gas and nuke, which would let this country grow instead of cutting back on our power use.
This current direction is leading to ruin.