Passenger plane and Blackhawk helicopter "collide".

[cprodave]

It was a night time training run along an established route that followed the river.

My understanding is it's a way to transport "VIP"'s in the congested DC area.

I understand this is a routine drill that is practiced to assure "government continuity", i.e how to shuttle around important government officials during some kind of emergency or attack. Sort of a Disaster Recovery Plan (if you are familiar with those that many businesses define and practice). I can understand the rationale and need to conduct these "fire drills" but this is a worst-choice location to have less-experienced chopper pilots gaining flight hours. Also it's a super high risk location for testing how night vision technology is impacted by city light pollution...

 

[Native NV Ducker]

So, the new pilot should just continue with their career, and never worry about handling a situation like this, until they get promoted to first seat, and then see how it goes?

 

[API]

"Training" in any profession is a committed deal. The greater the level of difficulty and risk, the greater the commitment to excellence needed. In that sense, until a candidate is fully vetted and certified, the trainer/mentor has to share ownership of the student's performance.

 

[SB2MAG]

I’ll blame the instructor pilot. As soon as the helicopter ascended above 200’ AGL on the radio altimeter he should have said “MY Aircraft” and shoved the nose over. The debrief would/should have been 201’ AGL is too high. You failed!

I’m an instructor pilot and if I let a pilot do something unsafe, my boss would fire me and the FAA would pull my Line Check Airman letter.

One could blame the instructor pilot’s commanding officer for letting his instructors be too lax.

Standards are meant to be held not negotiated.

There was no reason for that helicopter to be above 50’ AGL. NVG’s or not.

 

[Native NV Ducker]

I’ll blame the instructor pilot. As soon as the helicopter ascended above 200’ AGL on the radio altimeter he should have said “MY Aircraft” and shoved the nose over. The debrief would/should have been 201’ AGL is too high. You failed!

Yup. Finally a post that makes sense.

 

[widgeon]

 

[FriedPotatoes]

Clear case of ODD

 

[API]

Clear case of ODD

My understanding is that ODD behavior generally relates to children exhibiting a "pattern of uncooperative, defiant and angry behavior toward people in authority". Perhaps this an indicator of how much of a failed role DEI played when the pilot got selected for the job.

 

[FriedPotatoes]

My understanding is that ODD behavior generally relates to children exhibiting a "pattern of uncooperative, defiant and angry behavior toward people in authority". Perhaps this an indicator of how much of a failed role DEI played when the pilot got selected for the job.

I was being facetious but only partially. I don’t know this particular woman (obviously) but being defiant because ‘I don’t want no man telling me what to do’ is a common type encountered on campus.

 

[API]

I was being facetious but only partially. I don’t know this particular woman (obviously) but being defiant because ‘I don’t want no man telling me what to do’ is a common type encountered on campus.

Indeed, while that may be a common attribute for some situations, the value of the military experience is team membership. In that sort of work, not wanting "no man telling me what to do" is the epitome of worthless.